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Funny, that since the spread of this virus is so high; the people have accepted this as normal, compared to say HIV. I wonder if people would have shunned the ones that acquired it, had it not had such a high infectivity.
COVID is God's will, but HIV is blasphemous.
This is the new forever
cruise ship ....virus active on all surface after 17 days of vacated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKq9Wsuynn0
Brought my PC home so I don't have to go to office, secured my family and made sure they don't have to go out either.
I wash hands thoroughly when I come back home if I did go outside. I wear a mask around people.
Occasionally I disinfect the things in the apartment building that everyone is touching.
Plenty of food and water. Bug out bag is in the car, especially as we had an earthquake (yeah I know!) and there could be a bigger one coming.
I'm also in the market for a powerful compound crossbow with optics. If ayone from EU has one and wants to sell... :wave:
It totally depends what you mean by "it". Coronavirus is not fake at all, it is some probably medium-dangerous, possibly severe infection (I am talking here about impact of virus to people). I would not personally mind it if on the planet is just me, because I am taking higher risks everytime I sit to my car with my driving style or everytime I step out of my house in latin America.Quote:
Originally Posted by MMM
But in Latin America I have one cat I love with FIV and I really want that cat to survive as long as possible. In Europe I take care of my 91 years grandma for which this is unlike to most life threatening situation and I also do not want to kill her by something that can be alive for days on my clothes.
Besides that Japanese people taught me that when I am sick I should wear facemask to stop spreading the virus (regardless if it is covid or not). Remember that samurais were using incense sticks to make their helmets to smell good just in the case their enemy will decapitate them. So I have a lot of Japanese facemasks just to protect others. (Ok, I admit I like to wear those in Europe always, because I also like to be socially distant to ignorant people (that is also SE Asia invention) and mask provides perfect illusion of such distance... and ok, I also admit that I like to scare people - those priceless looks of 50-something people in village supermarkets when you stop there to buy a coke.)
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But "it" can be also the whole theatre around covid and that is something that I take totally seriously. It can be covid, money, love, or totem. It does not matter. All those things are powerful symbols that move whole societies. Western society is fragile and will jump on any disaster to make it even bigger by mix of negligence, hesitation and overreaction. Covid is something that was already propheted by Hollywood blockbusters about epidemics.
All those funny conspirators are indeed totally right. It is all fake. But not faked by illuminati, but by all the tired people who somehow lost the way in life and desperately seek for disasters, so they can have a bit of authentic felling in their lives. It is not different to what gamblers want from gambling. But both impact of gambling and impact of covid can and will go out of hands.
Like even if markets will ej4culate to the praised V shaped curve in the "best case scenario", nothing will be like before. Deep inside illusion of secure world was again broken and the cut was deeper and much less will be needed to beak up the reality again. Also nothing will stop from now the waterfall of QE. Nothing will stop open socialism where states donate 80% of wages to people who do not work or buy bonds of private companies. Those are scary things that were destined to happen.
I have two things about this border-conspirative video (now we enter the diversity era: we have 2 families of conspiracy: 1. everything is fake, corona is no problem; 2. corona was made by China/FBI/whoever; but both conspiracies indeed end at NWO).
Problem nr. 1: In Italy, Spain and elsewhere people are really dying, the healthcare systems are at the limit and everything did not break up completely only because of the isolation of people. The video is missing remarks to this. Yes, people are dying massively for flu each year, but they do not die at hospital corridors or at home, because there is no room or oxygen for them. It is obvious the data will show it.
Problem nr. 2: this "doctor" or whoever he is is equally stupid in social dynamics. To write that simply, it is the Thomas theorem (If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences). To be the red-pilled hero who is telling that the king is naked means that the one who is telling this is the biggest idiot in the room. No one cares - at least short and mid term - what is the truth. If billions of people believe there is a disease that can potentially kill all people, even when the disease would in fact "only" kill few millions or tens of millions of old and sick people (who in brutal reality are not important for the world economy and progress), the consequences will be as if the disease would be lethal on much larger scale.
Psychoanalysis of Lacan is going deep into this. Dividing our world into Imaginary-Real-Symbolic. Important is to take seriously not the lies how this can kill everybody; but also not the lies how this will kill nearly nobody; important is to accept both, the symbolic side, the truth in Tomas theorem. Zizek is showing it on the famous scene of Matrix, where Neo is offered the red pill of truth and real world. That red pill is as fake as blue pill, maybe even more fake.
So for me this video is a nonsense. But I must take it seriously as well. The video is serious impact of corona and it is making further cracks in reality and for sure many people will take it seriously, so it must be taken seriously.
Still the buying BTC and decent crossbows is now more important than academic debate.
I'm definitely not fat enough to go a year without food, but I think I could survive a few months :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Sherlock
TBH when I got back from Hawaii start of March I started going back to the gym to get back in shape. I'm taking this opportunity to find ways outside the gym I can still do that because all of my hobbies have now been cancelled - dancing, gym etc. My worst nightmare is being stuck inside so I'm happy we are able to at least still go outside at this point.
I suppose he decided that possibly saving some lives was too high a cost to pay for some tests.Quote:
Each country on their own. Trump understands at least how power works (if he really declined the offer). There is always price to be paid. The higher is price the more one needs it. Countries that now go to azz of china will pay the price in future. There are just bad decisions now. But the worst was to do nothing between half Feb until now, when it was already obvious this corona will cause total mess.
There are some positives of all of this. Very nice to hear that.Quote:
Originally Posted by golfbettingsystem
Glad to hear you're ok after the earthquake Dan.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanHorvat
I've never washed my hands so much, since, covid-19 hit. Likewise, if I go out, the 1'st thing I do when arriving home is:Quote:
Originally Posted by DanHorvat
- wash hands (approx 30 sec);
- dry with paper towel;
- flick tap off with paper towel, and throw towel in bin.
What really f#cks me off to no end, my partner's 18 year old son. We've told him till we're blue in the face, IF you go out, when you return home, wash-your-hands immediately. Has he followed that one (1) basic rule? NO... I'm about to lose the plot on his ass.
Irony... he's a 1'st year student nurse... I sh#t you not!
Fortunately our house is large enough, I can easily isolate from said child. Office is large and has full bathroom attached. Enough room to throw a pull out bed in it. Aside from the kitchen, I could easily survive in my office :D
I'm cleaning with bleach, every couple of days. And wiping door hands, fridge door etc., etc., where idiot (partner's) son in touching every day. I avoid touching anything he's touched. Can't find gloves to buy, so making do using plastic-wrap.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanHorvat
Ditto here too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanHorvat
BTW sorry to hear about the earthquake, good to know your OK :)
Schools are closed for a week now and never left the property since then.
Last night, my youngest son(3) woke up ... coughing, 38.8 degrees.
Either it's just a cold, or I can tell you soon how Covid feels.
Lets hope it's a cold, and you and your family are ok :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eenzoo
@eenzo - Let's hope it is cold. We are all with you.
@DanHorvat - Croatia is amazing country with very good people. It is very sad to see the ruins after the earhtquake in Zagreb. This city is very, very beautiful. I believe people there are strong and also have to thank to BBB .
I live in Bulgaria and we are in lokdown for nearly 12 days. Have taken enough food, water and medicine. I do believe that it will all pass in the last couple of months.
Isolation is good for people who can avoid people who give them hard times. But most recently there are cases with families who are shouting and arguing the whole day and night. + we had winter coming back for couple of days with 15-20 cm snow.
In shopping centers at the moment, staff members are marking crosses using green masking tape on the floors to indicate that shoppers have to practice "social distancing" (which means no hugging or touching) by standing at least 1.5 metres apart and most people are not following these guidelines. This advice is also being displayed on mall signs. It's very shocking to see this sort of behavior among other important personal hygiene practices that aren't being followed through by a lot of people. They're just not getting the message of "health and safety" through their heads. Really disappointing as this is a very serious issue and there are still tough times ahead for everyone!