Gambling Wages Affiliate Issues?

Just sent a PM... :pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed:

That's INCREDIBLE!!!

February 2009, Coolcat Casino Stats
Total Initial Deposits: $241.00
Total Deposits: $18,710.00
Net Win: $188,361.75
Coupon Amounts Awarded: $121,462.10
Manager Credit Amounts Awarded: $63,294.97 :pissed::pissed::pissed:
ChargeBacks: $0.00
Net Profit: (Net Win - Coupons - Credits - Chargebacks) $3,604.68
Amount Deducted: $6.00
Amount Miscellaneous Adjustments: $0.00
Amount Added For Reversed Bans: $0.00
Amount Earned: $1,081.40 :pissed:
Amount Earned From Tiers: $0.00

March 2009, Coolcat Casino Stats
Total Deposits: $4,982.00
Net Win: $50,885.26
Coupon Amounts Awarded: $36,816.15
Manager Credit Amounts Awarded: $15,252.00 (THAT'S INCREDIBLE!!!:pissed:)
ChargeBacks: $0.00
Net Profit: (Net Win - Coupons - Credits - Chargebacks) ($1,182.89)
Amount Deducted: $0.00
Amount Miscellaneous Adjustments: $0.00
Amount Added For Reversed Bans: $0.00
Amount Earned: ($354.87) (Past earnigs, feb 2009, LOST!:pissed:)

Same story for all other GW casinos! :punch:

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Originally Posted by APCW Anthony

Hey,

If any affiliates have current issues with Gambling Wages we would like to know about it and see if we can help.
Please PM me with details and I will keep everyone informed what the issues and resolutions are.

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I just relayed your PM to GW.

I will let you know their response...

Readed it!

Thank you very much! :wave:

Here is an email I received from Gambling Wages regarding manager credits:



Anthony, <O:p

This is what we have posted on CAP and will answer your issue:<O:p></O:p>
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I can fully understand with everyone being upset with the manager credits. I will now explain to why this happens and what we are going to do to resolve this matter.

<O></O>Why<O></O>
John is given a $50.00 free chip with a 20x roll over and $50.00 max cash out.
John wins 3k. He knows he cannot cash out more than $50.00
so he tries to play it down, but keeps winning and get’s the balance up to 4k
in a over a week
He makes a pay out request of $50.00 and plays the balance of $3,950.00
off his account. This gives the affiliate a nice income of $1,185.00 (30% Rev Share)
from ghost money. So we have to apply manager credits to remove the $1,185.00

<O></O>I know you might say “That’s not fair Robert!” But with an average of 2k to 3k
players doing this each month it really adds up.

<O></O>How to Fix.<O></O>
We will work with each affiliate who’s traffic is based mostly on free chips.
Since 99% of the rev share problems stem from this.
I would like to ask that any affiliate that has any problems please contact me personally
by email, so I may set them up on a program to counter act this problem.
My email address is robert@gamblingwages.com

<O></O>Double the Difference Guarantee!<O></O>
We are so sure that Gamblingwages, will convert your traffic better than any other gambling affiliate program on the net.
That we would like to offer all affiliates new and old, a very easy challenge.
If Gamblingwages conversions are not better than any other affiliate program you use, we will pay you double the difference!
Please contact me for details.<O:p

Regards,
<O:p</O:p
Steve Ariel<O:p</O:p

Wow. Yet another reason why these ridiculous bonuses have to end immediately.


Robert, you and I spoke at length about this very issue, and you told me that some of the bonuses would be stopped. Can you tell us which casinos now offer realistic bonuses?


Additionally, don't you guys think it's time to wipe out all of these silly things? They **** off players. They **** off webmasters. Why for the love of all that's holy do you guys not see the devastation this brings upon Gambling Wages and the Virtual Group?


If you know these bonus offers are a large part of so many of your problems, what are webmasters and players to think if you continue to promote them in spite of all the issues?


I am sorry, my friend, that the APCW is unable to resolve more issues. But I'm afraid that it's been made "virtually" impossible. We cannot continue to fix the RESULTS of the problems unless and until their CAUSE has been taken care of.

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Is there anyone here who truly believe they will ever change for the better?? :roll:

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Originally Posted by Jinnia

Is there anyone here who truly believe they will ever change for the better?? :roll:

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Not me, their one big pile of Cow Dung. The people behind this mess need to thrown into one of those WTO riots. Or maybe featured on that T.V show "The Real Hustle"

Well anyway can't see them changing...maybe retiring with all the loot they made over the years.

Flakers

greek39

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Originally Posted by APCW Anthony

Why<O></O>
John is given a $50.00 free chip with a 20x roll over and $50.00 max cash out.
John wins 3k. He knows he cannot cash out more than $50.00
so he tries to play it down, but keeps winning and get’s the balance up to 4k
in a over a week
He makes a pay out request of $50.00 and plays the balance of $3,950.00
off his account. This gives the affiliate a nice income of $1,185.00 (30% Rev Share)
from ghost money. So we have to apply manager credits to remove the $1,185.00

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The player hasn't deposited anything, it's a free chip, so the only thing this firm are really going to do, is charge the affiliate who sent the player 30% of the $50 the player cashed in. At no stage was the webmaster ever going to gain anything, so why should they lose $1,185?

I would wager: when the player does eventually deposit and lose, this firm will charge every free chip given and cashed out upon to the webmaster anyhow.

& they have funkified rules, where players who do cashout from a free chip, get hamstrung later on regarding maximum amounts they can win playing without bonuses, because they cashed in from free chips previously, which are given out willy nilly for this exact reason.

& no I won't go reading their terms to prove it and link it up, because i'm tired of doing so, and webmasters won't give a hoot anyhow. I'm tired of the webmasters(you know who you are) promoting them and thier ilk, in the full knowledge they're sending folk like me, players, to casino hell. I'm tired of writing these posts aswell by the way, so don't say it. Plus, this firm don't post all the terms, instead they state, "addiitonal game restrictions apply, contact support before playing", or something like that.

Bottom line: the vast majority of webmasters have no contact with the players they send, if any, so this firm can charge what they like as manager credits and shaft webmasters, just like they do with the players.

Love it joeyl!:clap: these buggers deserve some bridge burning. Dam feel like going on forum rampage.

greek39

I've just posted here https://www.gpwa.org/forum/what-do-1...tml#post539352, that if anybody have problems with 123Bingo, if you were not been paid by 123 Bingo, pm me please, and I'll try to help you to solve this problem. Tomorrow I will have discussion with an affiliate manager of 123Bingo, and I'm going to discuss non payments.

And do not worry about me. I know what to do :wink:

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Originally Posted by aksana

I've just posted here https://www.gpwa.org/forum/what-do-1...tml#post539352, that if anybody have problems with 123Bingo, if you were not been paid by 123 Bingo, pm me please, and I'll try to help you to solve this problem. Tomorrow I will have discussion with an affiliate manager of 123Bingo, and I'm going to discuss non payments.

And do not worry about me. I know what to do :wink:

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They have been having this issue for the longest time. I hope you can help affiliates get paid..

Steve

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Originally Posted by aksana

I've just posted here https://www.gpwa.org/forum/what-do-1...tml#post539352, that if anybody have problems with 123Bingo, if you were not been paid by 123 Bingo, pm me please, and I'll try to help you to solve this problem. Tomorrow I will have discussion with an affiliate manager of 123Bingo, and I'm going to discuss non payments.

And do not worry about me. I know what to do :wink:

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Thanks, even Gambling Wages has difficulty dealing with them.

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Originally Posted by APCW Anthony

Thanks, even Gambling Wages has difficulty dealing with them.

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Yes, I know, but I will try. I'm tired of their calls, and when I say that I have stopped working with them only because they don't pay their affiliates, then the affiliate manager says me that they pay. So I need real facts.

I have the same problems with them last year, they owed me about $250. It was not so big amount that do not pay me, but they didn't want to pay me even this amount. They required me to back all links and banners to my site, and only after that they would pay me. Even after that they didn't pay me, and I asked them to pay me firstly and only after that I would talk to them.

Finally they had paid me this amount, and since that time I haven't been working with them.

But now they again started calling me, what I hate! When I was with friends - they called me, when I was in a shop, and chose shoes - they called me. Even when it was evening in my country - they again called me. And every time I ask them to talk via MSN, when I'm in my office.

So, I need real facts.

I'm just have talked to Djay, an affiliate manager of 123Bingo, and he said to me that almost all payments had been processed and all payments would be processed soon. So, let me know, who else haven't yet received commissions.

hi
spooke to mavrick 3 weeks ago said he is going to pay but 3 weeks ago and he is now not responding to my email msn nothink gone of the air now it is 1 year since my payment!
affidRO000335
hope someone can do somethinks to help!

gamblingwages pays me every month, I've been charged $ 15,000 this year.

But I have a very serious problem this week

Apparently I have 40 new deposits with red flag "fraud"
According to GW informs me, depositors access from the U.S., but later change their ip to countries as Pakistan, Iraq, "and so on.

But my pages provide referrals only from the United States. is impossible that 13 new deposits this month, 13 are of the same nature fraud in cirrus
:pissed:

acerevenue eg: I have 20 new deposits so far this month, 7 are chargebacks, but nowhere else that happens in GW.

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acerevenue
refercasino
gamblingwages
prism vip and slots
everyone pays to term

could someone help me with this problem?
thank you very much to all

Gambling Wages is no longer a member of APCW.

However I will contact them for you, PM your information.

Are they allowed to have apcw/gpwa stamp on their GW site ?
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Gambling Wages is not a member of APCW.
I don't think Gambling Wages has ever been a member of GPWA.


I will make sure we contact them about removing our logos.

Thanks!

I solved the problem he had. thanks for the collaboration :)