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Ok, there is the common banter about the opening sales line "Have you got traffic?" but do we really need to be approached and asked while we are sitting having lunch?
Sometime the banter and fun is well deserved but those looking for traffic please choose your moments. I am surprised someone has not knocked on a toilet stall door and asking if I have traffic.
Just a thought for those looking for traffic at conferences.
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Hi Pokerface,
Lol. You really made me laugh when you said "I am surprised someone has not knocked on a toilet stall door and asking if I have traffic." ;)
I'd expect questions like
How do you generate traffic?
Which markets do you target?
How much traffic do you think you can send us?
etc
But "Have you got traffic?"
I mean it's not like you looked through a window and saw a lot of people drinking alcohol and having a seemingly good time, and so decided to join them without knowing what the gathering was about :)
I seriously start to hate all those stupid questions.
Looks like most Always ask the Same.
Don't forget
- How much Ftd a month Can u sent me (I have No clue Because I dont know your conversion)
- I want the best positions, What positions Can You give me?
- we are the fastest growing casino, Can You sign up here and put us on your website? (There a lot of fastest growing casinos)
- I dont see our casino on your website. When are You putting us online?
- Can You sent us more Traffic So we get more Ftd (When the conversions are extremely low at That brand)
cheers. Have a good night
Lol. Those questions are annoying indeed. It's not a partnership at all. It seems that some people really get a few bucks bonus if they can show a screenshot of their banner on top to their boss. Or show some evidence at how many people they've bothered at a conference.
But I must say that "the not at all prepared affiliate manager" is even worse. Those "Have you got traffic" probably are not having the best brand, no money for a boot, nobody made an appointment in a response to their spammy emails, etc.
But an affiliate manager with who you're having a meeting has no excuse at all. You're working with them, there is action in the account (otherwise no need for a meeting), they're working for a nice company and you're willing to do some more business with them. But not prepared at all. They have no idea about the stats, if it's growing or not. Some even don't remember the website.
And I really do hate the guys that are thinking that wasting more traffic is the solution. Some of them aren't even interested in being at very targeted subpages. They just want a banner or whatever on the first page to waste the traffic over there. In general, I hate it when they're living in some other world. Like if I drop quality brands I am working for years with, from some doubtful white label start-up. Just because they're very pushy at a conference.
I guess bad brands will usually attract the less talented affiliate managers, but I really wonder why some brands with nice products don't take it a bit more serious.
Coming back to the topic. "Have you got traffic"... I guess they're not 100% if they're asking something like that. What should I do there as affiliate if I have really no traffic at all? I should always first ask if I can interrupt and introducing myself. Including key facts about the brand I am representing. Than every affiliate can decide if it makes sense to continue the discussion. It makes no sense to discuss about "betting on diamonds" if I have just casino traffic. However some people do really disagree with that.
This irks me.. One time I was talking to a colleague at the conference when this douchebag came up and interrupted our conversation and proceed to shove his business card at my face - at which I point I then told him to get some manners and f*ck off since I don't know him, nor am I interested in sending traffic to him.
What was his reaction to this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Casinorep
2 different stories:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokerface
First one - an affiliate manager had no idea who I was, thought I was an affiliate, and started doing their sales talk to me inside the bathroom as I came out of the cubicle.
Second - a male aff manager, same thing had no idea who I was, and followed me into the bathroom until someone told him it's ladies, to get out.
So there you go.
Both were "financial" btw...
Edit: Funnily enough they were both at the same London conference last year (year before it moved to Excel).
Well, that is a very intriguing story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renee
I never saw it in that light before. :)
Had the audacity to get defensive until I got up, then he walked away.Quote:
Originally Posted by vtyunby65
It reminds me this episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-jq5W4hAzw And whatever it was, I don't blame sales beginners. They're just learning, as we all had our miles to walk on the way to understanding of what we were doing.
This happens at least a few times a day at every conference. Nothing makes me madder actually. If 2 people are clearly in a meeting, it's sooooo ******* rude to just butt in and start with your sales talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Casinorep
Yes. It's ******* annoying and in my opinion, it has nothing to do with being a sales beginner, but everything with just education.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renee
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Originally Posted by Pokerface
lol.. good one. I've been to LAC a few times and see the desperate look on the affiliate managers hunting for engagement and ready to pounce on the most minute sliver of eye contact.