SEO Companies

Hi Everyone,

Have you noticed that their appears to be an high proportion of people with English names working for Indian SEO companies. Tell me, Did a lot hang around after the Colonial period? Is it like a stage name? or is the economy so good in India that people with native English names have gone over for the job opportunity. Answers on a postcard to betting-analyst!

I mean, are these people idiots -- who buys such crap. If someone tells me he's Mr Patel all well and good, but not when they start off with utter bullcrap !

PS : If anyone wants to buy any bearings (god knows what they are). We are the people , because apparently, we have about 500 contacts in this area of expertise !

Usually stage names.. A lot also use female names.. especially with those "Number 1 on Google emails"

Yes, they use such names just to be more trusted. Especially Indian SEO companies are really trying to get as much customers.

Not sure if using a false name gets much trust. If their is one thing the internet is flooded with it's people pretending to understand SEO.

It's pretty simple.. if they are a good enough SEO specialist.. then you will find them.. not them find you..

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Originally Posted by bettinganalyst

Hi Everyone,

Have you noticed that their appears to be an high proportion of people with English names working for Indian SEO companies. Tell me, Did a lot hang around after the Colonial period? Is it like a stage name? or is the economy so good in India that people with native English names have gone over for the job opportunity. Answers on a postcard to betting-analyst!

I mean, are these people idiots -- who buys such crap. If someone tells me he's Mr Patel all well and good, but not when they start off with utter bullcrap !

PS : If anyone wants to buy any bearings (god knows what they are). We are the people , because apparently, we have about 500 contacts in this area of expertise !

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Bravo!!!! I'm so glad I'm not the only who can't stand that crap always saying what they can do and cant do nothing, and always looking for money when the job is not even completed. My friend learned the hard way on that.

Funny how you can always kind of tell its not a real name as well. Say like, "Peter Saunders", sounds genuine, but "Jeff Dickens" maybe less likely so.

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Originally Posted by wonderpunter

It's pretty simple.. if they are a good enough SEO specialist.. then you will find them.. not them find you..

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Totally agree... :)

There really aren't many good SEO companies, and many are scams. One way to check for their credibility is to see if they have any good workshop videos on YouTube.

That's why when looking for an SEO Company I make sure to check reviews about it first.

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Originally Posted by sampendleton

That's why when looking for an SEO Company I make sure to check reviews about it first.

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Everybody is able to write or buy some positive reviews. A really good SEO company is top ranking at the keywords they want. If they cannot even rank their own keywords, how they ever would be able to rank yours?

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Originally Posted by Triple7

Everybody is able to write or buy some positive reviews. A really good SEO company is top ranking at the keywords they want. If they cannot even rank their own keywords, how they ever would be able to rank yours?

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Somewhat true but not necessarily. I've worked for SEO companies that really don't do much in terms of optimising their own sites, but they certainly could rank if they wanted to.

You have to remember that different things work for different people and niches. Ironically for a lot of SEO companies having a sales team, networking in the local community, paid advertising, having a proactive email marketing strategy, etc, is more effective and profitable than ranking for certain search queries. I know it sounds counter-intuitive but it's true.

I've had this argument with people before who've turned around and said "Well I've just Google'd X and I don't see your company website there" as if they've rumbled the company in question as unable to do their job, but if we're not ranking for X it's because it's a waste of our time.

Also I think SEO taken by itself is oldhat. A lot of reputable SEO companies have abandoned the term and are all now "digital marketing" companies, with much more of a focus on engaging content, social channels, on-page optimisation, branding, etc. On-page optimisation and links are still very important but I'd run the other way if a company came to me talking only about those things.

But yeah, generally stay away from Indian companies because their methods are outdated by in large and will upset Google if anything.

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Originally Posted by chris_rp

Somewhat true but not necessarily. I've worked for SEO companies that really don't do much in terms of optimising their own sites, but they certainly could rank if they wanted to.

You have to remember that different things work for different people and niches. Ironically for a lot of SEO companies having a sales team, networking in the local community, paid advertising, having a proactive email marketing strategy, etc, is more effective and profitable than ranking for certain search queries. I know it sounds counter-intuitive but it's true.

I've had this argument with people before who've turned around and said "Well I've just Google'd X and I don't see your company website there" as if they've rumbled the company in question as unable to do their job, but if we're not ranking for X it's because it's a waste of our time.

Also I think SEO taken by itself is oldhat. A lot of reputable SEO companies have abandoned the term and are all now "digital marketing" companies, with much more of a focus on engaging content, social channels, on-page optimisation, branding, etc. On-page optimisation and links are still very important but I'd run the other way if a company came to me talking only about those things.

But yeah, generally stay away from Indian companies because their methods are outdated by in large and will upset Google if anything.

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I am in agreement with you here, there are only so many queries per month and depending on location and competition
, I think this thread is more about those "I can make you number 1 on google type emails" No credible marketing company can make those guarantees especially in a high comp industry.

I would still have more respect for an SEO company if their own company was doing well for their own terms. It's a very good start point, I can say, "Well they've got themselves top 5 in a high competition niche, maybe they can do the same for me". SEO is all about proof, anyone can SAY they're good at it.

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Originally Posted by RacingJim

I would still have more respect for an SEO company if their own company was doing well for their own terms. It's a very good start point, I can say, "Well they've got themselves top 5 in a high competition niche, maybe they can do the same for me". SEO is all about proof, anyone can SAY they're good at it.

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A lot of SEO companies exhaust resources ranking their own website to the point that taking the time to beat them is a fools errand. We would happily let the competition take the big keywords because we'd been there (local and national search) and knew there was know real value in ranking for them. All I'm saying is there are a frightening number of sh*t SEO companies coming up for the big keywords, especially for localised searches, so people should still be weary even if a company is right up there.

I think what a company has done for their clients (and how long they've kept them on-board) is the best indicator but it's a catch 22 because obviously like you say you need to find them first to be in a position to make that judgement.

totally agree with @RacingJim ... if a SEO company is not able to be well ranked with a website for specific KWs, what do you expect about your project??