How many of you still cares about PageRank?

[hakank]

As topic says, is it important for you to have PR1-10 or whatever you have?

How do you rank your site?

PageRank?
Alexa?
Blekko rank?
UV?
Pageviews?
SE Hits?

Or anything else?

And..

What do you consider to be a successful website?

Not counting known trademarks or "typeins" like casino and you turn up at casino.com thanks to google.

[casinobonusguy]

I use to care back in 2006 -2007 when i had many high pr sites now as long as they are pr1+ I am happy

[michael1981]

I don't really care much about page rank these days. But I think you need at least a page rank of 1 to rank for any keywords. A successful site is one with a variety of permanent links, and has a good domain name.

[casinobonuseslisting]

I don't really care much about page rank these days. But I think you need at least a page rank of 1 to rank for any keywords. A successful site is one with a variety of permanent links, and has a good domain name.

i disagree with you as latestcasinobonuses has a 0 page rank but it holds a strong rank for so many keywords in major search engines.

[michael1981]

That's unbelievable, you are completely right. latestcasinobonuses.com has over 82,000 yahoo links, is an authority site, ranks well, and has a page rank of zero, incredible. I never knew it was possible to rank with a page rank 0. I change my mind, I couldn't care less about page rank now

[buyonaut]

I don't care about it at all - it has no significance at all to anybody really - it is traffic that counts and quality of content you have. + links to high quality sites, that have to offer something to their visitors!

[AWH-Gemma]

PR may not matter in terms of ranking as much as it did but it still matters a lot. Its a good bargaining tool when it comes to link exchange/link sales and paid advertising

[baldidiot]

I don't care i about toolbar PR is the slightest. The only time it effects me is when someone else tries to use it in bargaining (link exchanges etc..). I would rather have a link from a PR0 site that is real and active than a PR4 converted trash page that will just sit there rotting.

[freedom2play]

I think you need at least pr0; as pr NA is pretty bad I guess. Also toolbar PR may simply be wrong by design; such as a site pr0 with 82000 links and ranking, I doubt it is pr0 even though the toolbar PR says so. Use SEOmoz as a second opinion.

[ddm]

I care about PageRank because i have sites with 25,000+ pages, and PR is an important factor in terms of my site crawl allowance and rankability. Just because Google is downplaying its importance (for obv reasons) doesn't mean it's not an important metric. I'm amazed that nobody else mentioned this!

[freedom2play]

I care about PageRank because i have sites with 25,000+ pages, and PR is an important factor in terms of my site crawl allowance and rankability. Just because Google is downplaying its importance (for obv reasons) doesn't mean it's not an important metric. I'm amazed that nobody else mentioned this!

Excellent point. Obviously page rank is very important, after all Google's CEO last name is Page. Do you really think it is a coincidence?

[baldidiot]

Excellent point. Obviously page rank is very important, after all Google's CEO last name is Page. Do you really think it is a coincidence?

It's named after him - he wrote the original paper that was used in the patent.

There's no denying that true page rank is important, but that isn't what we see in the toolbar...

[Webzcas]

Toolbar PR = Pointless.

[universal4]

i care about pagerank because i have sites with 25,000+ pages, and pr is an important factor in terms of my site crawl allowance and rankability. Just because google is downplaying its importance (for obv reasons) doesn't mean it's not an important metric. I'm amazed that nobody else mentioned this!

Sorry, but in my opinion (which is shared by many) there are a lot of metrics which do in fact affect site crawl and rankability but TOOLBAR PR is NOT it.

Goole will likely not get rid of it anytime soon. Toolbar PR is part of what helped make Google #1.

It was a metric which was easily measured and seen by both seo people as well as webmasters new and old alike.

Thousands of posts on blogs, forums etc have spawned discussions of it constantly drawing more attention to both the metric and the engine itself.

Many of the pr discussions that consistiently pop up here on a regular basis are somewhat comical and entertaining, and what is even more comical are watching how some will place a lot of importance on pr, and then a few months later they also tell others how pr is not important and how they should concentrate on SERPS.

Rick
Universal4

[universal4]

It is possible to have high PR but not rank for many keywords or lower or PR0 and rank for much more

Yes it is.

Rick
Universal4

[nsawins]

I'm far from a SEO expert or wiz but in my opinion PR has very little impact on SERPS. My 2 cents. We have a PR3 on our main site and easily get new blog posts and pages indexed in google and on the 1st page for many of them within minutes after pinging google. We run over 20 sites in different industries and have higher PR with other sites that don't rank nearly as good or get nearly the traffic as some of our other sites with lesser PR.

I think one of the real keys to ranking high are domain age, backlinks adn updated content regularly. We would much rather have a link on a site with PR2 that is a 5 plus year old domain, has a good amount of backlinks and updates regularly than from a 2 year old domain with PR4 plus that has few backlinks and updates their site with new content weeks apart.

Again, my 2 cents but that is my opinion from trying to learn the SEO game for 10 years now.

[bonusbetting]

Google's internal rankings are obviously pretty important, but given that they only update toolbar PR 2 or 3 times a year, it seems it isn't a very accurate metric. Having said that, I think a high PR is a useful indicator of the value of the links on a site when considered along with other factors - such as SERPs, quality of site, amount of content, regularity of updates, site age etc.

A lot of people value it and it seems that a high PR means good money for links.

[johnbenjamin]

PR might be something of a value from a search engine/webmaster's perspective. I'm still surprised that there are media buyers around who look at Alexa ranking too. I think it's about time Google overhauled the PR and one of the signs I see, is them pushing the Google's +1 button and rumor has it that the plus one will help Google to refine it's search (ultimately competing with Bing/Facebook from a webmaster's perspective) but too early to speculate right now.

A successful website is one where your traffic is responsive to your offers and you actually see conversions which translates to bringing value to your advertisers/merchants. A site may have high PR and rank but it doesn't necessarily mean getting a banner up there (from a merchant's perspective) would result in sales.

[fernades]

I really don't care about PR. But i will check my alexa rank and number of backlinks in every day.

[Thom]

I can range my priorities in the following order:

#1 Unique content
#2 Backlinks of high quality (few relevant backlinks of high quality is much better than hundreds of irrelevant 'spam' backlinks)
#3 Site design
#4 Interlinking
#... Page Rank

Cooperate with the webmasters/websites' holders in order to get good backlinks. All other staff you can do by yourself.
And one more thing - much more qualitative backlinks you get buying ads on celebrity websites.
In majority of cases the webmasters use the websites of low quality to make 3-way link exchange.