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    The referral revenue does not look right and I want to see if anyone else has the same problem.
    Starting September 1st of 2024 my referral revenue has been negative every day.
    Compared to June +$121, July +$77 August +$34.
    I contacted support a few days ago and I had a positive revenue day for the first time in 8 months.
    Support has not contacted me about this but it looks like they are starting to correct this.
    I just wanted to know if someone else has this same issue.

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    After over 250 consecutive days of negative commission in my reffaral account I emailed on the 19th. On the 20th I had my first positive commission since last August. The response from CK is that everything is correct. Even pointed out the positive commission on the 20th as proof.

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    Yet another thread mentioning Commission Kings (aka wagernetwork.ag aka BetOnline) and suspected devious behavior. No smoke without fire. Personally I think they have turned from a good program a few years ago to outright rogue now. If I was you I'd give up on them. They slashed my rev share to 10% on over 5000 referrals & won't reply to emails. Avoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tufty View Post
    Yet another thread mentioning Commission Kings (aka wagernetwork.ag aka BetOnline) and suspected devious behavior. No smoke without fire. Personally I think they have turned from a good program a few years ago to outright rogue now. If I was you I'd give up on them. They slashed my rev share to 10% on over 5000 referrals & won't reply to emails. Avoid.
    Same here

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    They somehow keep paying me random amounts. But they are not trustworthy imo.
    The question is who to promote in the US, in states where Bovada does not operate.
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    Just emailed CK.
    Before the 271 consecutive non earning days. I used to make money on Referrals.

    The last 3 monthd prior to only negative commission.

    June +$121, July +$77 August +$34.

    You really want me to believe that for 271 consecutive days there was not a penny of positive revenue. But the day after I emailed support about this there was suddenly 1 day of profit?

    What are the odds on that?

    The response.

    Thanks for your reply. I am glad you are now seeing some positive numbers here.

    If you have any other questions or require any assistance, please do not hesitate to ask.

    Best regards,

    Daniel

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    I do not see problems with them. They convert and they pay.
    The only point i hate, but that around the fu**** globe, noone from the US offshore operators is able to pay on time! Never!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eenzoo View Post
    I do not see problems with them. They convert and they pay.
    Until they don't. Which for many has already happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    The question is who to promote in the US, in states where Bovada does not operate.
    In terms of sportsbooks (not casinos), this is not a strong recommendation, but given all the other unregulated sportsbooks have even bigger negatives, I think by default that leaves MyBookie (webpartners). They only restrict four states. I am not sure their offering to players is anywhere near the best but as an affiliate they have appeared to play fair so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tufty View Post
    Yet another thread mentioning Commission Kings (aka wagernetwork.ag aka BetOnline) and suspected devious behavior. No smoke without fire. Personally I think they have turned from a good program a few years ago to outright rogue now. If I was you I'd give up on them. They slashed my rev share to 10% on over 5000 referrals & won't reply to emails. Avoid.
    Terrible and very sorry to hear. Knowing their corruption in dealing with their partners, this is just another horrible and devious tactic that they can pull on anyone without warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tufty View Post
    Until they don't. Which for many has already happened.



    In terms of sportsbooks (not casinos), this is not a strong recommendation, but given all the other unregulated sportsbooks have even bigger negatives, I think by default that leaves MyBookie (webpartners). They only restrict four states. I am not sure their offering to players is anywhere near the best but as an affiliate they have appeared to play fair so far.
    Mybookie are fair and I like their AM. But they seem not to convert to me at all. Still I will switch to them now. Better to have zero from honest guys than from crooks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tufty View Post
    They slashed my rev share to 10% on over 5000 referrals & won't reply to emails. Avoid.
    Ok, so I was not the only one where this happened. They offered me a higher % if I send more players - but only on the new players, the existing player base is supposed to remain at 10%. What a joke.
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    "Dance on this hot plate" and we *promise* that we will ....

    clowns.

    imagine saying this **** to a business partner's actual face.

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    My referral account had been generating negative commissions for over 250 days straight, so I contacted customer support on the 19th. The next day, I finally received a positive commission. However, when I inquired about the prolonged period of negative commissions, the response was that everything was working correctly, and they pointed to the single positive commission as validation.

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    I'm negative with partners.io for over 8 months, consistently about -3/4k in comission - yesterday one old player deposited 18k and won 4k, now im 7k behind. With wagernetwork, i was 6 months "in debt" because of 3 big winners. 40 days back they brought all back.
    I would say, if you are small in FTD, learn to handle that, otherwise grow your player base or start selling Booking. com instead casino.

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    This isn't about negative carry over.
    271 straight days of negative commission.
    Do you really expect customers to win every day for 271 in a row?
    The day after I emailed support I had a positive commission.
    Since then back to negative every day.
    This is about manipulating the commission reports.

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    May was surprisingly normal revenue.
    There is something wrong with the stats and revenue, but at least for me, they are quite innovative how they produce/fabricate the stats (including how they returned to me 5 figures 2-3 years ago after I was complaining, they refused it, refused, refused, then affiliate manager was gone and they said there was a rogue player abusing a system and they sent me those money).
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    271 straight days negative commission.
    I complain.
    Next day positive commission.
    15 straight negative commission days since.
    Maybe I should email them everyday.

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    I hate getting wiseass advices. But I think you should just forget about them.

    There are many selectively rogue affiliates, I think a majority acts like this.

    They profiled you somehow less perspective than me and I am less perspective than enzo. Commissions reflect that.

    But if they take away everything from you, it is better to move on. SFYL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    I hate getting wiseass advices. But I think you should just forget about them.

    There are many selectively rogue affiliates, I think a majority acts like this.

    They profiled you somehow less perspective than me and I am less perspective than enzo. Commissions reflect that.

    But if they take away everything from you, it is better to move on. SFYL
    That would make sense. If a program targets 10% of the affiliates each year to eliminate. The remaining 90% will just look the other way.
    By this I mean affiliates who are producing enough FTDs to meet the program requirements.

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    I wanted to say that we should stoically take those valuable information.

    The culling often starts with selected affiliates. Just like happened today to me at Cloudbet. When this happens to one, since then other affiliates should rationally diminish the traffic to the selectively rogue affiliate program to the minimum FTDs that is necessary (or what they estimate is necessary).

    Being cheated is simply a norm here. Being an affiliate is like being a member of a nation that lives in volcano active area. The catastrophe will suddenly happen. For some sooner, for others later. One just have to mentally and economically prepare for it, knowing that in the end there will be a total destruction. But it does not make much sense to be mentally affected by the form that they cheat.

    CK is at least a bit original how they cheat you.

    15 years ago I was thinking who to put on top positions, whether bodog or CK. I started with CK, but they suddenly closed my account, stole the few players, accusing me of cookie stuffing. So I went with bodog later bovada. I made with them nice money, I still do and big part of my BTC comes from the rich uncle Calvin. Had the CK not been so stupid, I would have lost incredible revenue. I started to promote them after 5 dimes disaster as secondary, but by then the party was over.

    One really can not do anything with natural disasters, but retrospectively seen is nice to build a house on plot where lahar did not go. But that is always just a pure luck. (However I was writing here about behavior of CK in the past. I think they were something like commission.bz)
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