Jumpman 6 Month Lifetime For RS

[Mattbar]

I only just found out that all Jumpman brands that are operated by them directly (including Reach brands) have a 6 month limit on RS. It is not something I have noticed before as we didn't have much bingo traffic before this year but apparently it has been a thing since they moved to Raven last year and made us agree to new terms - I didn't read the terms closely at the time as we had very little bingo traffic.

In any case just an FYI in case anyone else who works with them didn't know that.

After 6 months from registration all accounts drop to 0% RS too, they don't revert to a basic/lower rate, it is literally zero.

it is clause 6.2 in their terms for reference:

6.2. “Revenue Share Commission Term” means the period of six months from and including the registration date of the Player.

[baldidiot]

Streuth. Do they at least give you some lube first, before bending you over?

[universal4]

At least their players will get great bonus offers 6 months and 1 day after joining.

/end sarcasm

Rick
Universal4

[Juan Roman]

This is one from the let's-see-how-low-they-can-go edition. Shocking.

[Former Member 32]

I literally came on here today to post about this. Glad someone has beat me to it. Also watch out for

- Jumpman Affiliates
- Reach Gaming Affiliates
- Caryatid Affiliates
- The Sun Play Affiliates
- Fortune Games Affiliates
- Joker Affiliates
- Dream Bingo Affiliates
- Gladiator Bet Affiliates

[MMM]

Such lowlifes!!!

It seems they applied this strategy now to all affiliates. Noticed something strange and was told that today and came to see how i missed that.

I wonder if its a new rule or they haven't applied it till now, as its no coincidence that we all encountered it the last few days.

[loquax]

Looks new .. wayback shows 6.2 term in July 23, 2023 as not mentioning 6 months.

[MMM]

you write, in reach i see screen from Feb and it wasnt there.

[Mattbar]

I assumed the term was added when they moved over to Raven in July/Aug 23 but MMM is right it wasn't in the Reach Gaming terms in February this year so must have been added more recently.

I don't recall when they last asked us to accept new terms on login. I only noticed this month due to some brands having positive net rev and no commissions.

[AVC-Invest]

Yes, I had noticed this too. I'm putting a plan in place to exit from all their brands and stop promoting.

[Mattbar]

I have been told by an AM that Jumpman have always limited RS

"its always been 9 months and more recently in the last 12 or so months it was dropped to 6"

I do not think that is true though, I can't find any mention of this in their previous T&Cs. I've never done enough with them before this year to check that is true in our stats, anyone else who can verify if that is true or false?

[DaftDog]

Streuth. Do they at least give you some lube first, before bending you over?

Careful, I received a GPWA official warning from City Guard a few years ago when I made an almost idnetical remark.

[MMM]

I have been told by an AM that Jumpman have always limited RS

"its always been 9 months and more recently in the last 12 or so months it was dropped to 6"

I do not think that is true though, I can't find any mention of this in their previous T&Cs. I've never done enough with them before this year to check that is true in our stats, anyone else who can verify if that is true or false?

i was told the same. i asked to point me to that close in their previous T&C as i searched for any mentions and couldnt find.

lets say like this, the fact that we all suddenly noticed it during 48 hours period probably proves otherwise.

[connd]

Jumpman never performed for me, they're poor quality white label sites without any long term player value.

[Mattbar]

the fact that we all suddenly noticed it during 48 hours period probably proves otherwise.

Yes, it is awfully strange that we all noticed this at the same time if they have been doing this all along

[Anthony]

Careful, I received a GPWA official warning from City Guard a few years ago when I made an almost idnetical remark.

Well we have learned from the various retroactive changes and the number of times affiliates got burned over the years to be more open to the expressing of opinions (without vulgarities / personal attacks). So the comment will stand and seems you called it correctly all those years ago.

We learn, we grow.

[mickyfu]

At least they are honest about it, rather than just detagging all your good players, like 99% of the parasites out there these days.

[davidlinden]

Fair point I guess. Sad that we have to think about this and follow each player ID we bring.

[Mattbar]

I have been told by an AM that Jumpman have always limited RS

"its always been 9 months and more recently in the last 12 or so months it was dropped to 6"

I do not think that is true though, I can't find any mention of this in their previous T&Cs. I've never done enough with them before this year to check that is true in our stats, anyone else who can verify if that is true or false?

To clarify the 9 month clause was in the terms previously, I just had never noticed it. It was in section 1.1 Definitions and Interpretations "“Commission Term” means the period of nine months from and including the registration date of the Player." That is looking at waybackmachine April 4th 2023.

[MMM]

Updating that we managed to solve our issue with Jumpman. For me the problem was not the limit on revshare, but that we agreed on certain deal and those changes affected the players that were delivered before the change, which is not right. After discussions with Emma, Jumpman agreed to pay us for those players based on the deal that we had at the time. TBH, i respect that as i thought that money was gone.

Of course i dont like any time restrictions on rev-share but as i see it, as long as they are upfront and changes do not affect previously delivered traffic, programs can do whatever they want. And then we can decide if to send them traffic or not, based on what they offer.