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    Default " Shocking revelations in the affiliate sector of the industry"

    The article CERTIFICATION WITHOUT SUBSTANCE HAS NO VALUE in the recent eCOGRA newsletter talks about shocking revelations in the affiliate sector of the industry. Are they referring to the CS/CAP affair?

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    I don't particularly get the point of the statements in the letter. Maybe because I'm not that long in the affiliate industry. Can you elaborate for me Nandakishore?

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    Raphinx, please read the two interviews of Lou Fabiano and Warren Jolly made by Vinism. You will find there all relevant info on what I was referring to. However, I don't know whether eCOGRA also was referring to the same stuff.

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    I'm quite certain that eCogra is referencing the fact that CAP Certifications were revealed to be advertising payments only without any substantive certification process behind them. The fact that CAP certified a program they owned that was rogue in nature is not the primary point, although it did serve to illustrate the complete mockery of CAP certification.

    I do think it is interesting to note that after all this, CAP still refers to their sponsors as certified programs. There is talk about this possibly changing, but it is a couple months later now, and it still has not changed.

    Here is a copy of the article so it appears in this thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by eCOGRA
    THIS AFFILIATE SEAL HAS REAL VALUE

    eCOGRA's substantive approach to professional certification

    Shocking revelations in the affiliate sector of the industry earlier this year had one positive result - it turned the spotlight on the question of genuine program certification and the real benefits that can flow from a professional and independent third party approach to this important business and marketing element.

    Coincidentally, the renewed interest it generated among affiliate programs came at a propitious time for eCOGRA, which had already embarked on a meaningful affiliate certification initiative following a year of expert international consultation with both business and academia. That program has seen the establishment of best practice standards and the in-depth assessment and audit of four major affiliate programs prior to the award of the new Affiliate Trust Seal.

    At the heart of certification lies the principle that any system set up to award certificates must have substance.

    When large sums of money or advertising fees are handed over on a regular basis in return for an endorsement that is not achieved through professional inspection to defined standards, it is definitely not real certification and is of little practical value.

    In eCOGRA's independent Affiliate Trust Seal service, the inspections and reviews are in-depth and carried out on-site by appropriately qualified business professionals armed with a set of requirements and standards that necessitate a full assessment of the program and its systems.

    Several program operators have been complimentary regarding the improvements to business which can flow from the advice given by the compliance teams, who must submit a full report to eCOGRA's independent directors before they will approve the award of a certificate that has real value and credibility.

    Like eCOGRA’s accreditation process for gambling site operators, the Affiliate Trust service introduces detailed best business practice standards for affiliate program companies, backed by a strict inspection and monitoring system and the display of the new eCOGRA Affiliate Trust Seal.

    To display the new Seal, affiliate programs must demonstrate that their program establishes, enforces and monitors best practice standards. Specifically, they must show that they calculate affiliate revenue accurately and make payments promptly, and that they have controls in place to accurately link players to affiliates.

    Although there are other entities claiming to monitor affiliate programs, eCOGRA provides the most public, structured and formal approach and ensures adherence to consistent standards through regular monitoring and full annual reviews carried out by highly qualified inspection and auditing compliance teams.

    "The eCOGRA Affiliate Trust initiative is more about actually going and visiting the management and operations of affiliate programs, gaining direct access to check relevant player and affiliate data to ensure that affiliate members are being treated fairly," says eCOGRA CEO Andrew Beveridge.

    "Recent events in the affiliate sector have highlighted the need for genuine certification as the industry continues to mature and becomes ever more professional, and the growing number of affiliate programs interested in this business enhancement underlines its value."
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    Sorry, for many obvious reasons, I think they have a lot to answer about

    For example, the REAL relationship with microgaming as a start...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelCorfman View Post
    I'm quite certain that eCogra is referencing the fact that CAP Certifications were revealed to be advertising payments only without any substantive certification process behind them.
    Thats it huh? Wow they are only what - 3 or 4 years late on that call? I guess now that the see a potential to prosper they are willing to come out and make those sort of calls that some were making many moons ago.

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    Just been reading the thread about this Rogue Casino, I noticed that there was mention of Microgaming and Ecogra, does anyone know who John Moshal is?

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    Right on the head! arkyt - you've got it right.

    I started hanging out at CAP 2004, i always assumed the certification was a label and based on being paid for a forum. That became pretty clear the first time lou answered the question "What happened to XYZ Affiliates forum?" and his answer was "Don't really know why, but they decided not to renew their certification".

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