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    I'm interested in setting up an affiliate website but I can't get a good understanding of the affilate payments from the terms and conditions on their website as they list a few deductions but don't give a good idea of what they are likely to be.

    Can you share a screenshot of a Bet365 affiliate statement with any identifiying info blacked out?

    Basically I want to see what their deductions are and if they tell you the net loss of your referrals and show all the deductions so I can see what the actual affiliate rate is as it is much lower than the advertised 30% I imagine.

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    Do not bother with that. Very likely they will not approve your account.

    You were also told I think very clearly that the deductions are not shown and you have to trust them. It does not help to open new threads and asking the same question. You were already told: trust them. If you can not the business is not for you. Any numbers from any operator are numbers you have to trust and you can never 100% verify them. The only reliable info here is that bet365 is the most reliable affiliate program around and that they nearly do not want new affiliates (certainly not someone who can not understand a clear message and will spit sh1t on them with higher probability).
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    Yes, this is just a duplicate thread of this:
    https://www.gpwa.org/forum/bet365-af...gs-257124.html

    Why ask the same question over again when people have taken a lot of time to explain everything to you already on other threads?

    You wont be approved by Bet365. I assumed from your previous threads that you had somehow already been approved, otherwise why would you want to drill down in such detail. To be honest, I don't think you will ever get your act together. Feels likes weeks that you have been asking these similar questions and yet you have not even applied to the program in all that time. If you are querying B365, you have no hope with anyone else.

    Update: I see you were also asking similar stuff about B365 eight months ago! :
    https://www.gpwa.org/forum/bet365-af...cs-255063.html

    Still you have done nothing about starting up. Taking everything into account, including the dire UK sports betting affiliate situation and your inability to simply get on with the job, I strongly suggest you find another way of making a living.
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    I have a website and am building a following ad free at the moment.

    I am not sure why you are both being so agressive when it is to everyones advantage to share information here to benchmark their effective rate.

    There are no specific financial statements on this forum other than everyone saying Bet365 are a good bunch and all the others have both good and bad reviews. That is not as useful as specific numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IREAffiliate View Post
    That is not as useful as specific numbers.
    There are no specific numbers as deductions do not feature on their stats. If you find my tone aggressive then it is because you have been told this by different people. Asking the same question, ultimately to the same people, repeatedly is not likely to elicit a different answer. I don't think you appreciate the effort people put in to answer you accurately, yet you just open up another thread and ask all over again.

    You don't have an affiliate account with Bet365. You have been asking about them since November 2020. It makes you a time-waster and / or a fantasist. My non-aggressive advice: Get a job in the public sector.

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    I'm really only asking for one number. The effective affiliate rate. I realise it differs between affiliates and countries. I am asking again and rephrasing as the previous thread replies just said to trust them. If one person was making 20% and another was making 25% any good business person would enquire as to the reasons why.

    You know you don't have to participate in the conversation if you don't want to. You may be better off taking a deep breath and doing something else.

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    You know you do not have to participate on this forum. You may be better off taking a deep breath and doing something else. Your approach is toxic, so for example my will to help others when I read the annoying repetitive bs from you, is at sub-freezing level.

    No one will tell you what you are bitching about aka the effective rate, because nobody knows that (bet365 in the first place). The reasons why nobody will tell you that were already told to you.

    Yes, now I go and use the ignore button again.
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    This will sound strange but it actually doesn't matter. Best way to think about it is "revenue per click", send 100 clicks to each of the brands you promote and compare the revenue you make, then optimise based on performance.

    Knowing the real effective revenue share rate is one thing, but also conversion rate and retention rates also play a huge part in things. 365 for example have amazing retention, which will skew numbers compared to smaller brand.

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    It would be a good approach by CPA.

    But when it is about RS, bet365 beats anyone, because they did not steal from affiliates so far and even borderline disputes were usually resolved in favor of affiliates and thus they signalised with billions invested just in their affiliate name that they do not want to steal even in future.

    So if from 100 clicks your average affiliate program makes 1000 after two years and bet365 makes "only" 300, the good bet here is to take bet365.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    It would be a good approach by CPA.

    But when it is about RS, bet365 beats anyone, because they did not steal from affiliates so far and even borderline disputes were usually resolved in favor of affiliates and thus they signalised with billions invested just in their affiliate name that they do not want to steal even in future.

    So if from 100 clicks your average affiliate program makes 1000 after two years and bet365 makes "only" 300, the good bet here is to take bet365.
    I definitely simplified the thinking as obviously counter-party risk plays a big factor

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    I know. That is why I liked your post. The problem is that some people do not understand the logic behind anything. To estimate a future value of player or commission of player is a complex thing and you pointed out well how to deal with it. I did not want to critisize that approach, rather extend it.

    Asking about real revenue share makes no sense without context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonusFinder View Post
    This will sound strange but it actually doesn't matter. Best way to think about it is "revenue per click", send 100 clicks to each of the brands you promote and compare the revenue you make, then optimise based on performance.

    Knowing the real effective revenue share rate is one thing, but also conversion rate and retention rates also play a huge part in things. 365 for example have amazing retention, which will skew numbers compared to smaller brand.
    That is the way to look at it as you say retention and maximising revenue is the name of the game. I may have been putting too much focus on unknown and unidentified deductions as it is obviously rife for exploitation and not being very transparent about what they are and how they are calculated is strange as it technically should be quite a simple calculation with a degree of estimation.

    That being said they level of aggression from Sherlock and tufty is completely uncalled for and is exactly the sort of posts that put off mew members and stop the forum from growing bigger. We all have to start somewhere and over time accumulate knowledge and share it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IREAffiliate View Post
    That being said they level of aggression from Sherlock and tufty is completely uncalled for and is exactly the sort of posts that put off mew members and stop the forum from growing bigger. We all have to start somewhere and over time accumulate knowledge and share it.
    You've been unappreciative of the excellent advice in your own duplicate thread to this one. Where people lose patience is with spammers. Here, you opened an identical thread on the same subject with the same question. Spamming is what damages this forum. You need to sh1t or get off the toilet.

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    Please keep this thread on the topic as it is titled.

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    Bet365 are the only affiliate program that I cannot say a single bad thing about. They are the best gambling affiliate program I've ever worked with, and definitely out of hundreds and hundreds in every other industry I've worked in, they are at the very top of the list when it comes to everything that matters. Paying on time. Not ripping you off. Responding to you honestly and promptly and perhaps most importantly, having dignity and integrity that the majority of affiliate programs, especially in this industry, sorely lack.

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    Hi,

    I would like to follow up on the previous message and say that its a true pleasure working with Bet365, they are reliable, easy to work with, very professional and I can easily trust them. I think that anyone that worked with them would say similar things.

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    hi all, does anyone know within what time Bet365 will pay the affiliate commissions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainOdds View Post
    hi all, does anyone know within what time Bet365 will pay the affiliate commissions?
    Have you asked your rep?

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    You have to request payment the manually by signing the withdrawal request and sending it back to them by email.
    They pay out very fast.
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    Thanks for your feedback guys!

    Just wondering because I'm in contact with them since a couple of weeks and considering to add them to my platform. But they sounds pretty good to work with.

    Best, Leo

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