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    Default Worlds biggest betting syndicate

    Maybe you saw this one about Tony Bloom (Brighton FC -Owner) and his Betting Syndicate (Star Lizard). This article suggests they are betting upto 1 million per game, and they earn up to 100 million in a good year.

    https://www.businessinsider.in/Insid...w/50930973.cms

    All i can say is if they are getting upto a million on a game, their will be a lot of line slippage. We actually found profits were significantly higher with a smaller pool and betting 8-12k per match compared to double that.

    Maybe best proof of that is Sports betting hedge fund Priomha, profit margins decreased with higher investment.

    It will be interesting to see how Pyckio perform when they start their betting hedge fund, although they are still raising Capital at Crowd Cube

    https://www.crowdcube.es/proyecto-cr...g/pyckio-21137

    for the start-up capital!

    Not everyone loses to the bookies!

    PS - Don't worry guys, these bets take place with non leisure bookies and exchanges!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syndicate View Post
    PS - Don't worry guys, these bets take place with non leisure bookies and exchanges!
    I'd love to have them on my Pinnacle account - which is a share of turnover ... not profit/loss.
    That's where I try to send all my big players looking for best lines.

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    Me too - Not Pinnacle direct but agent accounts which i get a share of turnover - Luckily for me, i have placed several syndicates and we also get the same for our own bets. In fact, i gave up working with traditional bookies once they started knocking affiliates, not that they suited my cause in any case.

    PS - I'm assuming a lot of your bigger players will be losers (to the book) - If that's the case, you could move into position taking with Pinnacle. Many agents have two accounts with the likes of Pinnacle, one for the winners (turnover) and one for the losers (Position taking) - You just have to figure out who's who!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGooner View Post
    I'd love to have them on my Pinnacle account - which is a share of turnover ... not profit/loss.
    That's where I try to send all my big players looking for best lines.

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    Sounds for me like a chat between two Aliens ... is it that complex how it seems?

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    I can imagine - It's what you are used to i guess!

    Not at all complicated - Asian h'cap books such has Pinnacle/SBO/IBC/ISN etc often use agents to collect/process bets. As stakes are high and margins low they pay 0.2% to 0.5% turnover commission (2-5K per million bet).

    The end client for these bookmakers is just an account number, since it's the agent who has the actual betting account and handles financial matters with the bookie and client.

    The advantage for people like myself is i can bet across multiple (dynamic odds) bookmakers from a single platform, and by doing this i get to squeeze the bookies juice by taking the best odds (their is also brokering - but lets no confuse more). On top of that i can also get a small commission on my turnover, which adds to my margin!. And, while the latter doesn't sound a lot, it makes a massive difference to the bottom line. And, by placing other high rollers/syndicates with these agents and splitting commission, it helps me buy butter for my bread.

    Alternatively check out https://www.asianconnect88.com/ - they are one such example.

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    Sounds for me like a chat between two Aliens ... is it that complex how it seems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syndicate View Post
    And, by placing other high rollers/syndicates with these agents and splitting commission, it helps me buy butter for my bread.
    I only found one proper betting syndicate in my 8 years betting career, do you maybe have any tips how to find more of them?

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    How have I never heard of the Asian handicap
    been betting for years and feel like I've missed out on so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by RowWwerzZ View Post
    I only found one proper betting syndicate in my 8 years betting career, do you maybe have any tips how to find more of them?
    I can only assume that you have to be a true highroller and they will approach you... eg, spending millions in Las Vegas style.

    Kind of loses the point going public to lowtime bettors.

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