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    Default Affiliate Edge adds criminal conviction to terms

    Summary of Changes: Not an unusual term, Affiliate Edge says that if you are convicted of a crime against them or another simliar outfit - your account may be forfeit.
    Guard Dog's Reflections on the Impact for Affiliates: This is probably a safety clause that ALL affiliate programs should adopt.
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    .5.4 If you are found to be convicted of any criminal activity against AffiliateEdge or related companies, then we reserve the right to forfeit any current or future earnings.

    See the original AGD Terms Alert.

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    What kind of crime would you be convicted off against an affiliate program? I agree not a bad clause but I cant really think of anything that would be come into play here?
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    Its not that my friend, its the "similar outfit".

    So basically if you were ever convicted of fraud against affiliate program in the past, be it from any niche I am assuming because of the terminology, you could have your account forfeit. This would be like saying, "You are high risk and we want nothing to do with you now that we figured out you were once a criminal."

    Unfortunately, since the wording is awful and written by someone who is obviously not a lawyer, nor has it in them to care... because any establishment that makes money is similar.

    So now if you have been convicted of a crime against any registered business, as being similar because they are both registered businesses, or because they both have someone named Bob working for them making them similar outfits, well you get the point...
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    I doubt there is anyone on the planet that has been actually convicted in a court of law for fraud against an affiliate program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambling Joe View Post
    I doubt there is anyone on the planet that has been actually convicted in a court of law for fraud against an affiliate program.
    There're a few cases listed here (most of which I didn't know about), but if you search for Shawn Hogan / Digital Point cookie stuffing, you'll find lots of info on a huge case where he's waiting to be sentenced for affiliate fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muffincrumbs View Post
    Its not that my friend, its the "similar outfit".

    So basically if you were ever convicted of fraud against affiliate program in the past, be it from any niche I am assuming because of the terminology, you could have your account forfeit. This would be like saying, "You are high risk and we want nothing to do with you now that we figured out you were once a criminal."

    Unfortunately, since the wording is awful and written by someone who is obviously not a lawyer, nor has it in them to care... because any establishment that makes money is similar.

    So now if you have been convicted of a crime against any registered business, as being similar because they are both registered businesses, or because they both have someone named Bob working for them making them similar outfits, well you get the point...
    Hi Muffin, what you are referring to here is AGD interpretation of the term. What it actually says is " .5.4 If you are found to be convicted of any criminal activity against AffiliateEdge or related companies..."

    With it mentioning 'AffiliateEdge or related companies' it actually means the casinos or other business names within the group.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gambling Joe View Post
    I doubt there is anyone on the planet that has been actually convicted in a court of law for fraud against an affiliate program.
    If you are willing to place money on this I am more than happy to take that bet... http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/...e-two-arrests/

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    Quote Originally Posted by AE-Martyn View Post
    Hi Muffin, what you are referring to here is AGD interpretation of the term. What it actually says is " .5.4 If you are found to be convicted of any criminal activity against AffiliateEdge or related companies..."

    With it mentioning 'AffiliateEdge or related companies' it actually means the casinos or other business names within the group.




    If you are willing to place money on this I am more than happy to take that bet... http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/...e-two-arrests/
    Martyn, you should first offer the bet and only then ​prove the other side wrong.

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    Martyn, you should first offer the bet and only
    then ​prove the other side wrong.
    Indeed, because I was ready for the bet. Not now though I did read it as fraud, DDOS isn't fraud.

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    A very strange term.... well I guess its ok to stay away from criminals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick.RevenueJet View Post
    Martyn, you should first offer the bet and only then ​prove the other side wrong.
    That's not for me to decide Nick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AE-Martyn View Post
    Hi Muffin, what you are referring to here is AGD interpretation of the term. What it actually says is " .5.4 If you are found to be convicted of any criminal activity against AffiliateEdge or related companies..."

    With it mentioning 'AffiliateEdge or related companies' it actually means the casinos or other business names within the group.
    Well done Martyn and thank you pointing it out. Seems totally legit and I looked at it's reference. I also think it is a term that other programs should adopt as well. It is a risky business and this small term will probably never come into play, but it is possible.

    I do want you to know that because of its terminology it could be referencing outside companies and not referencing AffEdge. In court that argument would likely win since word is the law. It should read, "AffilateEdge and/or its related companies" to make the proper noun: AffilteEdge possessive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muffincrumbs View Post
    You now owe me $5 USD or we are even on the beer I said I owe you. (keeping with the betting before the bet)*
    I'll hold out for the beer if that's OK with you? When are we meeting?

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    With a little luck in London Feb.

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    I think ClubUK has been shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FictionNet View Post
    I think ClubUK has been shut down.
    Yes its shutdown long ago and redirect to Club World Casinos

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    It's still there but only for existing players, all new players go through the Club World brand (USD) which is where most players went anyway, even UK players.

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