Avoide Lucky 18 (Online Lucky 18)

[GamblersHeaven]

I'm posting this in hopes that Lucky 18 (Online Lucky 18 ) will not draw in any new affiliates or old affiliates with promises of prepayment or paying to you what is owed from the past. The casino/affiliate program used to go by Lucky 18, but they have resurfaced in some places as Online Lucky 18. I'm sure most affiliates know better than to deal with these crooks, but I thought I would post this just in case.

On July 27th, I was surprisingly contacted by someone named Jake from the email address lucky18affiliate@gmail.com, who stated he was the new affiliate manager with Lucky 18 affiliates. He stated he would like to work with me and would be happy to pay up-front. I was surprised to be contacted by this group because they left in 2008 - 2009 owing me money. I explained to him that I was owed money and would have to have that paid and an up-front payment before I would promote the casino. He told me he would have to consult with the management about this.

A week later I received an email from Jake stating that the senior manager Robert would like to speak with me within the next couple of days. I said that will be fine and provided my number. About 10 days went by and I never heard from anyone. Then after 10 days I got another email stating he was about to call. Robert did call and we spoke about 20 minutes. He was giving me this great speech of how they purchased the property and was going to turn things around and make things right. He congratulated me on my new baby and told me how he understood I could use the previous money owed to me because of my new addition to the family. He was laying it on thick. I told him I was willing to give them a go as long as the previous money was paid and the prepayment was included. He told me it would be sent within a few days and Jake would contact me for my details.

A week went by without hearing from Jake, and this had become the norm. I began to have bad feelings when my emails would go days unanswered. He finally asked for my banking details which I provided on August 18th and he stated he would let me know when he heard from Robert that my payment had been issued. On August 23rd, he stated the wire had been sent. On August 31st, I still didn't have a payment, so I sent Jake an email asking where it was. He told me Robert was on vacation, and I knew I was in trouble. On September 5th, he confirmed that Robert had sent the wire that day on the 5th. That was the last I ever spoke to Jake. I've sent a number of emails to Jake all of which have gone unanswered. I've called Robert a number of times as well and left messages, none of which have been returned. I believe he answered the phone once, but he quickly hung it up once he realized who I was.

I don't know what the point of all of this was. We spent over a month emailing each other back and fourth and they even called me on the phone. I really can't understand why they would go to all of this trouble for no reason. It just goes to show that if a program has a bad history, then they're probably going to have a bad future. I guess I was just hopeful since they were going to catch my account up and make a prepayment.

If you are owed money by this group, then try contacting them and see if you have any luck. I haven't but maybe you will. Jake can be contacted at lucky18affiliate@gmail.com and Robert can be contacted at 44 161 773 3878. Robert told me he was basically the head of the operation and everything went through him.

Avoid these guys at all costs.

[universal4]

My guess is that the majority of this was lip service and they were hoping that you would start promoting them again BEFORE they paid you....

Rick
Universal4

[GamblersHeaven]

That's what I've come to believe as well. That's the only reason I can think of that they would have went to all of this trouble.

I posted this because I figure I'm not the only one they contacted about this, and if they didn't pay me, I don't think they'll pay anyone. It wasn't a lot of money I was owed or that they were prepaying.

[GamblersHeaven]

I never knew that posting an 8 next to a ) would cause a smiley face.

[grem]

do they really need to consult management about paying you money they owe you?

There professionalism lies in the fact they use gmail and not a business email

[GamblersHeaven]

That was supposedly because it was new owners and a prepayment. Either way I didn't care, I was just hoping to recoup what was owed. If these really are new owners, they are conducting business the same way the old owners did, very shady.

[Anthony]

Even if there are new owners, Lucky18 is still not paying the players that are owed money. I have not seen any changes in them, I personally would not trust them.

[GamblersHeaven]

Yeah, that was the point of this thread, to warn affiliates to steer clear of them. They don't pay players or affiliates. They are trying to recruit on the basis that they are new owners and the old payments have nothing to do with them. They then promise you everything, but follow through with nothing. As I described above though, they are still doing the same things even if they are new owners. I was hoping to recover my owed funds, but of course they had no intentions of paying that. I'm sure they've lured some affiliates in, but I'm hoping the thread helps at least one or more from believing what they're selling.

[LiliaStmit]

ok, got your point. will stay away from this guys.

[bacon]

We promote lucky18 since december 2011th The first revenue we had in April 2012.

In the beginning we had problems.
But when I contacted Jake, (I found it on LCB) our payment was paid on time!
Our new affiliate contacts Jake is in constant contact with us.
They pay their affiliates who work with this brand.
I can not believe that we are the only ones to be paid!

[universal4]

Lucky 18 screwed a number of players AND affiliates throughout the latter part of last year.

I encourage you to do some research on them here, AGD and CasinoMeisters before you continue to throw a lionshare of traffic at them.

I would very much like to see that maybe they have changed, but I wouldn't personally promote them again for quite a while until I was sure that player issues had been handled (even the old ones) as well as knowing that affiliates were being taken care of properly...for at least some time....

The problem is that once the trust is ruined....it is that much more difficult and they have to work that much harder to try and gain it back....

Rick
Universal4

[tg12345]

They agreed to a repayment schedule with me and have successfully made the first of 6 payments. I've started sending some traffic their way again, and they've been very responsive. I'll let Jake and Simon know about this thread. Hopefully it helps.

[tg12345]

Oh, just noticed how old this thread was...I'll send it along anyway.

[Anthony]

I have met with the new team and they do seem eager to make things right. However, restoring trust is not an easy task.
I am glad you have been paid as promised tg12345.

[universal4]

Well first on the list that I would like to see is to start contacting and taking care of all past player issues.

Then I think they would have to allow all previous affiliates back in to their stats, to include allowing them access to all old stats.

Anything less than that then they aren't all that serious about clearing up their reputation and only want newbies or those willing to start over moving forward.

Rick
Universal4

[bacon]

Since two weeks i can´t contact the affiliate manager simon and jake! - No call back on skype, mail,etc. - And since one week the casino and the affiliate programm is down. - So i think my revenue share is lost!!

[bacon]

This weekend a have become the information, that the processing is currently off and they work to resolve this very busy.

[GamblersHeaven]

I wish you luck in getting paid!

[HBKKH]

gl in getting paid