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    Default SharkBetz.com - football tips built on Elo, stats and a public track record

    Hi all,

    I'd like your honest opinion on https://sharkbetz.com/

    It's a football and tennis site built on numbers rather than opinions. Every match gets a probability, either from bookmaker odds with the margin taken out or from our own statistical model, and each tip shows that chance next to the pick. Tips go out a few hours before kick-off, and all of them stay in the public track record after they settle, losers included.

    Around the tips there are stats for 43 leagues (goals, BTTS, corners, cards), active team and player streaks with the history of similar runs and our chance that each one continues, and a club Elo ranking updated daily, with 1X2 chances for any two clubs. Tennis has its own Elo, overall and per surface.

    What I'd like to know:

    Is it clear from the home page what the site does and why you'd come back?

    Are the numbers on match pages easy to read, or is it too much on one screen, especially on mobile?

    Does the track record make you trust the tips more, or would you show it differently?

    Frank comments welcome.

    Thanks!

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    I saw zero affiliate links or a single operator promoted, visitors will visit a different site to find bookies to bet with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    I saw zero affiliate links or a single operator promoted, visitors will visit a different site to find bookies to bet with.

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    Sometimes it''s the best way until you're out of the sandbox on a new site. I typically keep the site lean until its rankign then slowly start adding aff links where needed.


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    I took a look at the two biggest matches in midweek on your site : PSG v Barcelona, Bayern Munich v Arsenal.
    https://sharkbetz.com/football/inter...ona-2026-10-20
    https://sharkbetz.com/football/inter...nal-2026-10-21

    The stats were pretty basic, and the additional information provided by the page was close to zero.

    While it is very nicely coded and presented, exactly WHO do you think would look at either page and think WOW! or I must come back !!

    I understand that you are covering world football, so many matches, so much data, and it's a great coding efffort.

    But the info is just too basic, the expected goals scored, overs, corners everything appears to be raw averages.

    And the "need to know" section is just wrong - or at least it's limited to this specific competition.
    eg. both sides played in the weekend domestically - so the bottom two lines are just silly.


    • Bayern Munich score 3.3 goals per game
    • Bayern Munich: 8 of 10 matches over 2.5 goals
    • Arsenal: only 2 of 10 matches over 2.5 goals
    • Arsenal concede only 0.5 goals per game
    • Arsenal: unbeaten in 17 matches
    • Bayern Munich: 8 days since the last match, 1 match in the last 14 days.
    • Arsenal: 8 days since the last match, 1 match in the last 14 days.


    Overall, an interesting idea, and it's great that you can pull in data and cover so many matches.
    But the coverage is so lightweight, and the data so basic that I doubt anyone look at these pages would care to return in future.

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    Thanks, fair points, and you were right where it mattered.

    The rest-days line was plain wrong. We only counted the fixture's own competition, so the weekend league game didn't exist. Fixed: rest now counts every competition we cover (Bayern 4 days, Arsenal 3). The "worth knowing" lines now say where their numbers come from, CL pages show each club's league form, and corners and cards that sit on the league average are greyed out.

    The thin coverage point is fair too. We already collect line-ups and injury news; they just don't reach the match pages yet. That's a fair bit of work and the site has only just launched, so it's on the list.

    What we do have is the ratings: one club Elo across all our leagues, linked through European results, plus a version that learns from closing odds. For Bayern-Arsenal that's 41/26/33 on Elo against 46/25/29 from the market without margin.

    Thanks for taking the time.

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    Fair point, Rick, but it's deliberate for now, pretty much as wonderpunter says. With no traffic yet, links would just be clutter. A lot of programmes now want a minimum number of referrals a month before they pay anything, and "lifetime" doesn't mean much once an operator rewrites its terms. We've all seen what Bet365 and Pinnacle did there. So traffic first, then links where they fit the content.

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    the coverage and the coding are the strong part, the problem is that every match page could be generated for any fixture, so there is nothing on it worth coming back for. one model number a reader cannot get from a score site would change that more than ten more averages: your probability against the bookmaker price at the time of the tip, and then against the closing line.

    the same goes for the track record. a win rate tells nobody whether the model is any good, tips settled versus closing odds do, and that is a number only you can publish because you hold the timestamps.

    technically, generating pages for 43 leagues means thousands of near identical urls, and those are exactly what google parks in discovered or crawled and not indexed. i would keep only fixtures with enough history in the sitemap and noindex the rest until the page has something of its own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbmon View Post
    Fair point, Rick, but it's deliberate for now, pretty much as wonderpunter says. With no traffic yet, links would just be clutter. A lot of programmes now want a minimum number of referrals a month before they pay anything, and "lifetime" doesn't mean much once an operator rewrites its terms. We've all seen what Bet365 and Pinnacle did there. So traffic first, then links where they fit the content.
    Did you have 1 visitor yesterday? Did that one visitor go join a bookie after seeing your site? Player lost.

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    I like the concept of the site, but the UX/UI needs work. Problem with those vibe coded sites is that they all look the same, so you either need a real USP to stand out or some unique branding.
    For me the site is way too busy and a high barrier to get used to the UI and UX, what will scare off a ton of potential users.

    So I think it has potential if you make the USP clear off the bat for the user (I shouldnt have to read your post here to understand what the site offers, I should understand that above the fold when landing on your homepage) and you work on a more unique branding.

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