Your own Casino from windowscasino.com for $2.999 ???

[Jim]

I was about to pursue the avenue of obtaining my OWN Casino from
windowscasino.com

Has anyone gone down this road and would you like to share your experiences ??

[nascar1]

Well there are probably hundreds of free windows casinos out there. And even at that price, the cost is far too much. :shake:

[Jim]

Rick,

I'm in the process of building a Casino Website as an Affiliate when I stumbled across the windowscasino.com Option.

As a newcomer to this field, what is the more viable way forward, my own Casino Website as an Affiliate or trying to market my Own Casino.


Any feedback would be appreciated

[VPJunkie]

Hi Jim,
What's your definition of "my own casino"? Unless you actually have the funds to back a casino, and live in a jurisdiction where you can do this legally, you're talking about running a casino 'front' which is just another form of marketing.

If this is what you're looking at doing, there are a lot of casino programs that offer this, but Windows casino is not one of the casinos anyone should use, if you want to be paid for your services.

[damiandunlap]

slyican, so it cool to promote them rtg casinos and how do i become a afficate at wild jack casino , i cant find a link

thanks

[croupier]

Wildjack and 9 other MGS casinos can be found at www.paymastercasinos.com

[Jim]

SlyCin56,

Sorry for not being concise on the matter. No I do not have the funds to back a Casino,YET.

As you mentioned its just a 'front' which is another form of
Marketing. Do you recommend taking this avenue from your experience ?

You seem very anti Windows Casino, any particular reason(s) ?
So if not Windows, which one(s) do you recommend ?


regards


Jim

[Jim]

Croupier,


I'm in the process of building my Website as an Affiliate.

I was going to heavily promote the Referback Casinos. You mentioned paymastercasinos.com in one of your replies.


How do the 2 compare in terms of Professional Service to Affiliates, honesty towards converting Clients to Payments and Casinos offered ?


regards,


Jim

ps so are you a Boro fan ?

[DVS007]

Lets compare the two

Paymasters -
20% of actual net - no royaltys

Referback
up to 35%

Paymasters
you will recieve commission from every signup

Referback
If the player signed with Gaming Club a year ago thru another site then signs up with another gaming club group casino thru your link today the original affiliate will get the commission.

Paymasters
answers all email

Referback
unless your a major affiliate your emails will be ignored.( I speak from experience)

Paymasters
exposed very little thru portals - mostly thru Jackpot Madness and some pay per click.

Referback
look at how many affiliates they have and you tell me. Overexposed big time.

Paymasters
excellent creatives selection

Referback
also xcellent creatives selection

Paymasters
limited as to how they pay out earnings to affiliates (so far)

Referback
more payment options - always pay within a reasonable period.

Paymasters
excellent casinos to promote. Microgaming software

Referback
Also Microgaming software - some sites starting to look dated.

Paymasters
crazy bonus money for small deposits - ie $50 free with $20 deposit. Not necessarily a good thing.

Referback
excellent bonus schemes ie up to $100 match.


All in all both programs are good. My personal experience? Ive made more money with Spirals casinos this month with a small fraction of the exposure I give Referbacks casinos.

[Jim]

DVS007,


Thanks for that comprehensive comparison between Referback and Paymasters.

I have not heard of Spirals Casinos, can you give me a website I can access for further info.


cheers,


Jim

[croupier]

Spirals is paymaster

That's a fair assesment from DVS but I'd have to disagree on some points.

PM have good creatives and tools but RB is VERY difficult to beat on this aspect - I'd rate PM as v.good and RB as excellent.

I've never had a problem with RB emails, although I do know that some have.

PM bonuses are aimed at getting anyone into their casinos and this has an impact on your bottomline because many take the money and run (but maybe they'll come back). Hopefully they'll change these bonuses soon - All Slots (PM) used to run a 25% of $4k ($1k bonus) that would be nice to see again to pull in the whales.

If I was starting up and had to choose only one I would take PM without a second thought. The main reason for this is exposure - RB has been around forever and is highly visible, PM casinos are lesser know so you've got more chance of getting a player.

But you don't have to choose - use them both and see who does best for you

[deaning]

Bottom line...
RB is doing sh*t for me now, this month and last, and have not run paymasters yet.

PM will attract the bonus hunter. BUT... if they change the bonus offers later on you will get some good reals happening with some great results and no shaving/gillette phenomenon.

PM aff manager is a personal friend, so I can kick him in the nuts if I want.

Do what we all do, run a few for a while and see what happens. No two sites are alike and what works for one does not work for another. Why? Still trying to figure that one out.

[croupier]

No two sites are alike and what works for one does not work for another. Why? Still trying to figure that one out.

This is not only a VERY important point but also the most annoying mystery surrounding this business.

You could put a nobel chaos theorist onto this question and still come up with no answer.

[croupier]

Just spotted this post at WOL that might go some way to explaining it:

http://www.boundaryinstitute.org/articles/casino.pdf (168k)
Some highlights:

Correlations and predictive modeling tests were used to explore the possibility that some fraction of the daily fluctuations in casino gambling payout percentages might be due to periodic variations in average psi abilities in the general population. The study was based upon examination of four years of daily gaming data from a Las Vegas casino.

Payout percentages were predicted to be positively correlated with lunar cycle and with gravitational tidal forces, and negatively correlated with the planetary geomagnetic field flux.

Nearly significant correlations were observed for lunar cycle and geomagnetic field, and significant correlations were observed for tidal forces.

These results are consistent with previous research indicating that some environmental factors may be related to predictable variations in psi performance. Artificial neural network and abductive network techniques were used to successfully predict casino payout percentages based on seven daily environmental variables.

:LOL: :rof: :LOL:

[deaning]

so...I get it!


I am a Virgo. I should use the biodynamic/organic school of thought on my websites.

Now, I figure I should do updates around a week before the full moon after digging up the cowhorns full of poo. I print my updates, pack them in the horns, re-bury and dig up and then scan.

Hmm got to give it a go, know this stuff works. Have a friend who runs a biodynamic/organic vineyard. Was laughed almost out of town. 10 years later guess who is laughing now?

[VPJunkie]

A Virgo who does not need cowhorns for his poo because he's so full of poo already.

[deaning]

Errrrrrr yeah. Catching cows, ripping off their horns and shoving poo in them is great fun!


Cows complain? I just kick them until they shut up. Hate animals anyways.