Has anybody noticed a lot of juni in the top 10 serps?

**wonderpunter** · 17 November 2015, 5:09 am

Since around November 9th there has been an up swing in junk sites.. Brand new sites with 1-10 pages, usually with the same domain taking up 2-3 positions in top ten.. Thinly written pages.. but there are literally hundreds of them.. I usually see this before a big update then everything adjusts itself

**RacingJim** · 17 November 2015, 5:48 am

Who you calling junk? Haha. One of my sites has seen an immense boost during this time, in fact i just checked it's earlier in November about 2nd November-ish and then gradually more again on about 7th. Something's definitely happening, who knows, like you said could be that things come back to 'normal' again, they're supposed to be launching live penguin soon so buckle your seatbelts.

**baldidiot** · 17 November 2015, 6:17 am

There's been a lot of very noticeable changes in the serps in the last week or two, often switching back and forth between two sets of results.

Something is definitely going on...

**wonderpunter** · 17 November 2015, 6:19 am

Lol... Is it an old site? What i'm seeing is Brand new cookie cutter sites with nothing more than a table.. hundreds of them with quite a few taking 3 top positions with the same domain, Every time i spot this some type of update happens shortly after..

**golfbettingsystem** · 17 November 2015, 11:39 am

There's definitely something happening, I was checking some SERPs positions last week and, with cookies cleared each time, the results were changing materially literally every half an hour. Someone's twiddling with the dials at HQ...

**wonderpunter** · 17 November 2015, 11:44 am

Originally Posted by golfbettingsystem

There's definitely something happening, I was checking some SERPs positions last week and, with cookies cleared each time, the results were changing materially literally every half an hour. Someone's twiddling with the dials at HQ...

Also I noticed my sitelinks are showing the way the site was setup 12 months ago.. last time this happened was before panda.. as well as older articles for daily games showing in results.. stuff from weeks or months ago..

**golfbettingsystem** · 17 November 2015, 12:06 pm

Originally Posted by wonderpunter

Also I noticed my sitelinks are showing the way the site was setup 12 months ago.. last time this happened was before panda.. as well as older articles for daily games showing in results.. stuff from weeks or months ago..

You're right, hadn't noticed until you said that but yes, I'm seeing sitelinks right now that I demoted at least a year ago, probably nearer 2 years ago.

**-Shay-** · 17 November 2015, 2:05 pm

Seeing some serps that have pages from the same site in 8 out of the top ten results.

**sweetbet** · 17 November 2015, 2:56 pm

There's definitely something going on. I've seen a lot of changes in the serps for some of my sites.

**wonderpunter** · 17 November 2015, 3:59 pm

Yup usually all the turd floats up to the top before a major update... it's happened everytime.. espcially when you see one page sites with 1999 designs and 20,000 spammy backlinks out ranking authority sites..

**RacingJim** · 17 November 2015, 4:13 pm

Anyone care to let me in on what keyword(s) they're talking about? Maybe just PM me with one keyword you're happy to show an example of? I can't see anything that weird to be honest.

**wonderpunter** · 17 November 2015, 6:29 pm

Use the USA data center that's where its most prominent .. There are hundreds of dupe url's this must be that surge people see before they are hit.. usually 400% increases then boom...

**allfreechips** · 18 November 2015, 9:32 am

time to start making cookie cutter sites with 7 pages and tables lol..

feel stupid for reviewing 3600 slot machines now

**wonderpunter** · 18 November 2015, 11:15 am

Originally Posted by allfreechips

time to start making cookie cutter sites with 7 pages and tables lol..

feel stupid for reviewing 3600 slot machines now

Should of made a site for each one

**dfiocch** · 18 November 2015, 1:58 pm

Originally Posted by wonderpunter

Should of made a site for each one

Haha!

I will spread my reviews portfolio in multiple domains, one per review. Sounds funny

**wonderpunter** · 18 November 2015, 4:28 pm

Ok So here is an example of some blatant obvious keywords which are no big secret.. some of the others are much worse.. Google is even adding popups asking how happy i am with the results.. so gives me a feeling they re testing something.

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**RacingJim** · 18 November 2015, 4:44 pm

I don't see any real issue with the actual quality of the sites presented, believe me I've seen a LOT spammier than that ranking at number 1-3 in Google. When I do a search from here in the Uk there are no sites dominating 2-3 results as you showed. Interesting though, just wondering are the sites that came up with 2-3 results sites that you have vistied and clicked on before?

**wonderpunter** · 18 November 2015, 5:15 pm

That was just an example of some generic keywords.. The others are much worse.. I have seen one site taking up the whole 1st page nearly.. Knocking all large authority sites off the front.. Those two are not a good example but of you do some searching you will come up with tons of spam sites many brand new.. There is definitely something going on this isn't normal serp behavior.. I use clean incognito browser every time have tried with various vpns

**RacingJim** · 18 November 2015, 6:26 pm

I wonder what the actual point of it all is, i.e. what is the process? Why do we have these times 'before a change' where the searches are a mess?

I'm interested to know the theories behind it or at least what people think is going on in these lead up times?

Are they playing around with it until they get it 'just right' (unlikely if spam crap is coming top) or is it some kind of filtering whereby what is coming top right now has been 'exposed' to be further analysed and then maybe sites like the ones currently top are the ones that will get punished?

I know one thing, I certainly never rely on Google to actually get these things right. There will always be spammy crap getting away with it.

**-Shay-** · 18 November 2015, 7:38 pm

Originally Posted by RacingJim

I wonder what the actual point of it all is, i.e. what is the process? Why do we have these times 'before a change' where the searches are a mess?

I'm interested to know the theories behind it or at least what people think is going on in these lead up times?

Are they playing around with it until they get it 'just right' (unlikely if spam crap is coming top) or is it some kind of filtering whereby what is coming top right now has been 'exposed' to be further analysed and then maybe sites like the ones currently top are the ones that will get punished?

I know one thing, I certainly never rely on Google to actually get these things right. There will always be spammy crap getting away with it.

Let the cream rise before you spoon it out.

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