Wonderlandcasino.com not paying €6000 for delivered service (RESOLVED)

[COPCapo]

we have resolved the issue

[-Shay-]

Shady --- regardless of whether they're considering closing or not, they are on the hook for the six large. Long past time for them to pay up.

[Progger]

why you promote this crap ? its a no name casino...

[nwalker]

Isn't that where Maria Florides went to work?

I had terrible problems when they first launched even getting access to their affiliate program. Whilst Maria was her normal helpful self she was unable to resolve the issues for me so I didn't promote them in the end.

[COPCapo]

Isn't that where Maria Florides went to work?

I had terrible problems when they first launched even getting access to their affiliate program. Whilst Maria was her normal helpful self she was unable to resolve the issues for me so I didn't promote them in the end.

Maria has worked for us and helped Wonderland.com to get affiliates, they however seemed to be very happy, as they hired her after she left us right away.

But this has nothing to do with Maria ..

The only disturbing thing is even they was happy they refuse to pay us.

[Triple7]

I guess there's no such term in their t&C where is stated that they do not have to pay your commission if they're thinking about closing their operations...

I see it's operated by EveryMatrix. Perhaps you should contact them with this issue?

[Roulette Zeitung]

What's happening here?

People are very fast in believing half the truth!

What here is written is half the truth and as a result nothing but a subtle defamation campaign.
And every person who will be a part of this defamation campaign is on my investigation list.

It's easy to open a thread, telling half the truth, because telling half the truth you can say: "I am not a liar [at all]".

Obviously also people they must be more clever because of what happened here the last years are giving thanks or applause to a arsonists.

I have exposed the thread starter in the past more than one time as a real "shady" person or as someone who is just talking rubbish.

You need a prove?

Here it is:

===> https://www.gpwa.org/forum/affiliate...tml#post810505

Last warning: In the moment, someone, no everyone who plays with the name or the person Maria Florides any dirty game, he must live with the consequences. That means, that - even if it takes months - I will clear the issues and clear him from the market.

This is a promise. These subtle or straight dirty games in this industry will stop.

No matter how flat you make a pancake, it's still got two sides.

Leopold

[DaftDog]

What's happening here?

People are very fast in believing half the truth!

What here is written is half the truth and as a result nothing but a subtle defamation campaign.
And every person who will be a part of this defamation campaign is on my investigation list.

It's easy to open a thread, telling half the truth, because telling half the truth you can say: "I am not a liar [at all]".

Obviously also people they must be more clever because of what happened here the last years are giving thanks or applause to a arsonists.

I have exposed the thread starter in the past more than one time as a real "shady" person or as someone who is just talking rubbish.

You need a prove?

Here it is:

===> https://www.gpwa.org/forum/affiliate...tml#post810505

Last warning: In the moment, someone, no everyone who plays with the name or the person Maria Florides any dirty game, he must live with the consequences. That means, that - even if it takes months - I will clear the issues and clear him from the market.

This is a promise. These subtle or straight dirty games in this industry will stop.

No matter how flat you make a pancake, it's still got two sides.

Leopold

Well then what is the other half of the truth? Please do let us know.

[Progger]

I have contacted WC and request a answer on gpwa :=) < it's the truth

Regards

[Roulette Zeitung]

"Well then what is the other half of the truth? Please do let us know."
a) You will never learn the importance of patience, distinctive strategic approach and the dependable feeling for the right moment.
b) Someone who insults in the public people who bring him the money e.g. as "junkies" who "lie" is no eloquent dialog partner. He's a frightening presentation of this industry to the outside.

"I have contacted WC and request a answer on gpwa :=) < it's the truth"
You can be sure, they read if it was sent to them.
Because this thread is in danger to trend into an accusations thread to the disfavor of Maria Florides, it would be very important, that you make clear on which day and on which communication channel you requested an answer.

Leopold

[nwalker]

What's happening here?

Last warning: In the moment, someone, no everyone who plays with the name or the person Maria Florides any dirty game, he must live with the consequences. That means, that - even if it takes months - I will clear the issues and clear him from the market.

This is a promise. These subtle or straight dirty games in this industry will stop.

No matter how flat you make a pancake, it's still got two sides.

Leopold

I'm not sure anyone is suggesting that Maria has anything to do with this. I raised her name initially as I knew she worked there and was very helpful to me. Perhaps the OP could contact her if she still works there for some help.

[COPCapo]

leopold, we have solved the issue

if you would taken the time to read through a whole thread ... than you would have seen that we have mentioned already: that this has nothing to do with Maria

but for some reason you could not

[Roulette Zeitung]

First of all: Any request behind the scene from @CopCapa to delete this thread shall be refused by GPWA staff!

This thread is one more great example how falsely accusation of two-faced people can be terminated within two hours and why I never will tolerate, that honest people like Maria Florides will be a part of dirty games.Yes, you can decorate yourself with good people to play games.

One minute before his last reply in this thread @CopCap edited his starting post as you can see if you scroll up (https://www.gpwa.org/forum/wonderlan...tml#post811286).

Yes, scroll up!

You'll see this:

this has been resolved
we have resolved the issue
Last edited by COPCapo; Today at 1:34 pm.

I have a full backup of this thread before @CopCapo edited his accusation. If someone needs evidence e.g. for court proceedings don't hesitate to contact me.

Now you see the full truth!
And not the half.
This case was an attempt to play a bigger, dirty game and again it's a proven fail of @CopCapo.

This is the real sense of GPWA.

A welcome place for the truth, where uncomfortable people like me can take the chance to protect honest people like Maria Florides, also to protect them to be a part of a dirty game.

A welcome place, where the real shady people can be exposed to bring this industry into a better future.

Leopold

[COPCapo]

First of all: Any request behind the scene from @CopCapa to delete this thread shall be refused by GPWA staff!

This thread is one more great example how falsely accusation of two-faced people can be terminated within two hours and why I never will tolerate, that honest people like Maria Florides will be a part of dirty games.Yes, you can decorate yourself with good people to play games.

One minute before his last reply in this thread @CopCap edited his starting post as you can see if you scroll up (https://www.gpwa.org/forum/wonderlan...tml#post811286).

Yes, scroll up!

You'll see this:


I have a full backup of this thread before @CopCapo edited his accusation. If someone needs evidence e.g. for court proceedings don't hesitate to contact me.

Now you see the full truth!
And not the half.
This case was an attempt to play a bigger, dirty game and again it's a proven fail of @CopCapo.

This is the real sense of GPWA.

A welcome place for the truth, where uncomfortable people like me can take the chance to protect honest people like Maria Florides, also to protect them to be a part of a dirty game.

A welcome place, where the real shady people can be exposed to bring this industry into a better future.

Leopold

Im not really sure what you talking about ?

I can't even follow this crap writing if yours to be honest.

The Casino came back to us today and paid us .. case resolved and closed

I never mentioned Maria here but i don't give anything of your threats. . If you have a problem add me on skype .. maria has it and you can tell me what you want.

For me the case is closed here .. and if thats what true what i said will be shown in few days.

If u add me im happy to show you also our conversation with them as they are as well in german you will havr no problem to read them

[Roulette Zeitung]

Since 22. November 1967 we know how important it is to read everything very carefully.
One word more or less can change everything.

In U.N. Security Council | Resolution 242 is written that

„Israel will withdraw from territories that were occupied“

not

„Israel will withdraw from all territories that were occupied“

Similar to

CopCapo

„The Casino came back to us today and paid us“

not

„The Casino came back to us today and paid us all“.

A very important difference!

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It's' very easy. If someone has real (!) financial claims of e.g. 6000 Euro, then he will enforce fully (!) claims, whether through a legal process, especially if he is resident in Malta. He will have justice.

Because of the (well thought?) missing word in your post and my knowledge about your working style I can say, that with a probability bordering on certainty you did not received all the money.

In the best case you received some kind of Goodwill payment, that is not uncommon in this industry, because false accusations in the public can destroy a small program. Some are not aware of their responsibility if they write to the public but abuses forums e.g. for blackmail activities.

If you received only a portion of 6.000 Euro, then this would show that your self-edited claims are, to some extent, unjustifiable. As a logical consequence [at least some] accusations in your starting post were false. And it doesn't matter if one out of two or one out ot thousand accusations are false. One false accusation is too much.

If you can show an unedited (I have analyze tools for that) image that proofs a full payment of 6.000 Euro, then I admit, that the "bosses" of both sides of the pancake are working on an unethical basis.

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On this German website @CopCapo's working style will be demonstrated very well:

pokerboni.com/forums/promotions/417-private-vip-deal-auf-ipoker

Very subtle rakeback spam promotion, big promises, and the experienced forum members say, that his offer is „illegal“. At the end the [unmasking] thread was closed and edited (!) at the request of @CopCapo! This is a fact and only one example.

And now dear audience, decide for yourself.

Leopold

[DaftDog]

"Well then what is the other half of the truth? Please do let us know."
a) You will never learn the importance of patience, distinctive strategic approach and the dependable feeling for the right moment. Only a jerk fires all ammunition too early.
b) Someone who insults in the public people who bring him the money e.g. as "junkies" who "lie" is no eloquent dialog partner. He's a frightening presentation of this industry to the outside.

Leopold I asked a simple question a simple answer would have sufficed.

You seem to love to try and belittle people by quoting them out of context. This does not reflect admirably on your character.

[universal4]

The first part of the problem in this thread is the OP removed the bulk of the post that explained the problem. The fact it was posted here was likely helpful in getting the issue resolved.

Instead of rmoving the issue from public view, the post should have stood un-edited so anyone reading it could see what the issue was and that it was solved.

The original post had not mentioned Maria or any other affiliate manager as part of the problem, and had the op NOT destroyed his post that could have been clearly seen.

The editing of the first post destroyed the continuity of the thread, and made matters much worse. (this is why there is an edit restriction in place so I will look into the possibility of shortening the time frame as it has become clear the last year or so that the allowed time might be too long since this happens more frequently)


The second part of the problem is that others saw an avenue to place blame on specific individuals, and this has led to personal back-and-forth which will NOT continue, therefore I am asking all participants to just let the personal stuff go and stop using the forum to throw any kind of personal accusations of any kind in any direction.

Any further posts that are personal in nature can and may be removed.

Rick
Universal4

[ocreditor]

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