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    Default Anyone succeed to promote gambling on facebook more than a month?

    Hi guys, I have fb agency ads accounts to rent out. But most of my clients who cloak links to promote gambling can only avoid not being banned within a month. Is gambling promotion on facebook in UK easier than other countries or do you have some tips. If yes, would you mind sharing it here and I would like to rent out my fb agency ads acc to you.

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    1-2 months is about the longest I had it going for. But I was using a different method than agency account + cloaking.
    How much do you rent the agency account for?

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    Hi WagerJoint, what is your method? My rate is 15% of ads spent.

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    It wouldn't be right for me to reveal my method publicly. But 15% of ad spend is a good price vs. market.

    Why not run it yourself? When we were running facebook paid ads back in November 2015 we were doing around 300-500 leads per day at a price around $7.50 USD per lead and I think market price is around $15.00 USD per lead. Some CPA Networks are paying $25 USD per lead from facebook ads but I think that price is too high. So there is a good margin for affiliates using this method.

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    Oh, nice. What a good deal. You must have earned lots of money. I'm learning to run ads myself for sure.

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    Yea, Facebook catches you relatively quick, there's still money to be made though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WagerJoint View Post
    It wouldn't be right for me to reveal my method publicly. But 15% of ad spend is a good price vs. market.

    Why not run it yourself? When we were running facebook paid ads back in November 2015 we were doing around 300-500 leads per day at a price around $7.50 USD per lead and I think market price is around $15.00 USD per lead. Some CPA Networks are paying $25 USD per lead from facebook ads but I think that price is too high. So there is a good margin for affiliates using this method.
    Could you share names of such companies, please? "Some CPA Networks are paying $25 USD per lead from facebook ads"
    Could you tell a little about your technology, please? Do you use context ads or just buy posts and reviews in communities?)

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    Could you, please, share some technology how did you manage to drive 300-500 daily at such a low price? And was the conversion rate good enough from 0.5k? Did you prepare some FS or no deposit bonus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betadonis View Post
    Could you, please, share some technology how did you manage to drive 300-500 daily at such a low price? And was the conversion rate good enough from 0.5k? Did you prepare some FS or no deposit bonus?

    1. Facebook ads are a form of interruption marketing. So you need a no deposit bonus or FS, otherwise your CPL cost would be around $30 per lead or higher. This is the first rule in FB advertising for casino. Speaking generally, I have a rule against FS and no deposit bonuses because it attracts the wrong type of player, but when you are seeking players and they are not seeking you then this is one of the few exceptions to this rule.

    2. I would recommend adespresso dot com, because you will want to split test hundreds if not thousands of ad variations, demography, geos and interests. The most important to split test is the image. You should start with no fewer than 10 images, split test the demography by female and male and split age ranges by margins of 10 years e.g. females between the ages of 45 to 55 in Australia that have an interest in Netent or bet365 (something like that).

    3. Going back to the free spins, usually free spins on a new game tend to convert best on a slick landing page. e.g. Warlords by Netent came out today so on the right demography with the right interests, in the right country, with the right ad copy would have a killer conversion rate e.g. landing page: exclusive.slotjoint.com/warlords/model.html. You cannot see it in the LP but its best to have the LP flow directly into the registration form and also have live chat available directly in the registration form because usually with FB its an older demography that is clicking on the ads and this demography will struggle even with the best registration forms.

    4. You mean a target size of .5k? I am not an expert in this, what I know is strictly based on trial and error. So based on my error correcting form of learning I think you need a much larger target size like minimum 20k. I say this because it appears cpc is based on supply and demand + some other variables so you need to have a large target size otherwise due to a lack of supply you will quickly hit a point of diminishing returns.

    5. Given that you are an affiliate FB may not approve the ad and/or close your account, so I am not sure how affiliates can escape this without meeting FBs monthly spending quota. But if you try I am sure there is a way. Persistency is the key to success within this advertising medium.

    One more thing, never do FB on CPL or CPA deals, because ultimately you will find its the older demography that is clicking and depositing, these players are hit and miss, you could get 999 players that are worthless than 1 that will drop $100,000. So on a CPA /CPL deal chances are you will be dropped before you hit your whale. Its almost like gambling.

    Perhaps it would be worthwhile doing an email submit with a redirect to a casino LP, never tried this approach. FB has an optimization pixel, so if you had an email submit page with a LP redirect you could place this pixel on your own thank you page prior to the LP redirect. So this would be a way to get started with a smaller budget because the cost per email will be quite a bit less than cost per registration or cost per depositing player.

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    What is a FS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omoplata View Post
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    Never been approved, they're really strict and shoot my ads down. I've heard of work arounds but never any long lasting campaigns which is too bad as the audience is massive.

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    It's possible but it really depends on how much your pushing your affiliate links. A good ad will get through if you manage to make the affiliate links and wording of the ad extremely low key.

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    Facebook suspended my account instantly after i tried to advertise. Of course, I was careful not to adv gambling, but sports news, but they still suspended me. They not even answering anything to my messages. Guess twitter is the way to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by wishmegoodl View Post
    Facebook suspended my account instantly after i tried to advertise. Of course, I was careful not to adv gambling, but sports news, but they still suspended me. They not even answering anything to my messages. Guess twitter is the way to go
    What results you are getting on Twitter? Never tried it before so I will have to look into this.

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    Never made it for a month But two weeks was one good timespan to make some NDPs. Still it is more of a hustle to create new facead-accounts

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    I try but it doesn't work for me

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    I see lots of gambling ads appearing on my Facebook feed recently, not sure if Facebook has become more lenient?

    What about those mobile slot apps like Slotomania by Playtika? I'm aware that they rely on in-app purchases (real money -> virtual credits) like most mobile games these days, which is consider legal to run ads anywhere they wish.

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    Same here. My adds were not approved. I didn't even get through the "advertising door". Same with Twitter. I gues to do it right you wold have to cloak your adds. And block FB bots to your landing page. I have never had lick on any social media. I still use them so signals from them help boost SERP results.

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    When pushing an operators landing page what conversion goal are affiliates telling FB to Optimise to? Without being able to place YOUR pixel on the operators site I find it difficult to see how affiliates could make it work. With Multiple Ads and Ad Sets what conversion date are you using to optimise?

    Of course you can write the name of Ads and Ad Sets in the Btag and manually optimise, but it still gives facebook little or no information on what's converting for you.

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