B4Playing email spam

[pgaming]

Apparently I am in their database? Not only my real name but also my most confidential email address as well. I wonder if they have any other private information as well? There must have been some kind of database sale. Buy one get one free kinda deal LOL.

Not happy about this in the slightest. Now I have too dust the email and default so the emails go someone where else.

Dear Peter,

Welcome to B4Playing, a technology that is aimed at changing the dynamics of the affiliate marketing industry. B4Playing is a unique tool that enables affiliates to own the players even when they switch, from time to time, between properties.
From: B4Playing?Own your Players 4 EVER <info@mumbaistay.com>
Date: 2007/07/30 Mon AM 08:27:58 CDT
To: <XXXX.NET>
Subject: Make more out of your players


B4Playing introduces affiliates to a Multiple CPA commission. We all know that players love to switch and we love to have a mechanism to earn from the switching player. With B4Playing Multiple CPA scheme, you can earn Multiple CPA over time. B4Playing claims that you can earn $1,000 per player and more, and I personally think they are right.

And I have a great surprise for you. A Special Introductory Offer, provided for you only for limited time. Use the following link to pre-register and enjoy the unique opportunity of earning $100 flat per player.

Join B4Playing!

I think this product has great potential. What do you think?

Well, you can just sign up to check out J

All the best!

Regards
Brian
Join B4Playing│Own your Players 4 EVER

PS. Your email id works as a trigger for this offer. Please use the above link and use your email id (xxxxxxxx) while signing up.

Please click here to unsubscribe and we will remove your email id from our database.

greek39/

B4playing email spam

[kwblue]

I've gotten on their email list as well, but that is with a well known portal email addy of mine... they could have easily pulled it off the site or gotten it from an email harvest (even though it is an image).

I don't like being spammed, but at least I only got 1 (so far)

[itay]

hey greek and kwblue, this is old news, was posted on CAP... was an affiliate we canceled his accoint.

Itay

[kwblue]

hey greek and kwblue, this is old news, was posted on CAP... was an affiliate we canceled his accoint.

Itay

That's great and all Itay - I'm glad you cancelled the account. However - from your tone, it sounds like I should not have replied to this just because you may have taken care of it?

BTW - Greek is banned from CAP, so he wouldn't have known that you cancelled this account.

[itay]

kwblue, np. it is just I thought I read the exact one there

BTW why was he banned there? what did he do?

Itay

[pgaming]

Itay why ask kwblue? You’re a member of CAP ask them. Post it here afterwards then maybe we can discuss it. That is if your up do it?

greek39

[matted]

Hmmm... politics... I get enough of that at my day job!

[pgaming]

kwblue, np. it is just I thought I read the exact one there

BTW why was he banned there? what did he do?

Itay

Itay,

Please don’t question my character, why this or that? Unfortunately my faculties are not dull enough to believe your story. Save me from the deceit. My personal info ended up in your hands. Must be the close relationship you have with cpays or some other junk organizations you deal with.

I was banned from CAP for speaking freely if you must know the decision was mine. Something I will be exercising more often in the coming months. If not here perhaps prweb or some other organization. I will have no part in what psychiatrists call triangular manipulation.

Brush up on your BH seo because from what I read it was utter non-sense. This might explain why you are such an easy catch.

Go ahead start the smear campaign of private emails.



greek39

[mynuw]

I'm definately not trying to stir the pot but I got this today.

I haven't pre-registered but I did visit the B4Playing website...hummmm

The email addy this was sent to is my primary email addy and I guess could be found easily from here or my website.

Dear Affiliate



We are very pleased to announce that the B4Playing Multiple CPA Affiliate Program is now live and you can complete your registration and receive login details to your account.



You will be able to find your unique tracking link, banners and reporting stats once you have logged in.



To complete your registration go to this URL: http://www.b4playing1.com/b4p.affiliatesite/Signup.aspx



If you need any help with anything please feel free to contact us.



This is the absolutely the last email sent by us to affiliates who pre-registered to the B4Playing affiliate program. If you haven’t registered yourself or been registered by someone else, we apologize and we wish to offer you the same special promotion made for all the pre-registered affiliates.



Wishing you lots of success with B4Playing.



Best Regards,

Itay Paz

VP Marketing



B4Playing Ltd.

Tel: +44-(0)792-401-2088

MSN IM: itaypaz77@hotmail.com



Don't miss the exciting & amazing B4Playing casino and online poker tool.

To download for free go to our website: www.b4playing.com



Register to B4Playing Affiliate Program to recieve a Multiple CPA Commission: affiliates.b4playing.com

[itay]

thanks mynuw for the post

[mynuw]

thanks mynuw for the post

itay, I think you missed the meaning of my post....

I never pre-registered

so why would I be getting mail from b4playing/itay saying that I have pre-registered or that someone pre-registered me for me??????

[kwblue]

Because everybody is getting this ****.

It reminds me of the 'Your link can no longer be found' emails for those trying to get reciprocal links by lying.

This is the same style of email spam.

[bb1web]

didn't see where i made this post....... but trust i was given permission.

new place called B4Playing. In essence, they are just another affiliate.

Since posting at the GPWA on this, I have checked into it more now to understand what they are doing.

First of all this is strictly a third party CPA program and the rates suck like a Mach 5 Hoover.

1-10 is 50 dollars, 11 to 30 is 65 and only 85 dollars for over 30 new players in a month.

Secondly, you will not exsist as far as the affiliate program knows. Everything is tagged to B4Playing, so you are essentially making B4Playing indispensible to the casinos, and lose any weight you might have with them yourself.
B4Playing is just another affiliate, so you are trusting that they will track fair, and pay you.

The main thrust of their sales pitch to affiliates is that once a player is in their system, you will get credit for the player at all of the properties that have signed up with B4Playing. Initially I thought the Casino Program would have to collude with B4Playing, and I suppose they still do in a way, but it is B4Playing that will be screwing around with WHO gets credit for WHO.

In theory, once a player has downloaded the program, all activity would go thru that software, but we all know good and well that people have multiple computers, they crash and are replaced, they loose passwords and just reinstall, people delete software sometimes and reinstall later, etc., etc..

Over the years, these things will happen many times to many people. Many probably go straight to the site, and just redownload at which point they would belong to B4Playing, OR they just redownload it from the first ad they see which probably WON'T be yours.
So what happens then? Would you trust them, or their system to flag those, and put them back under you?
I don't think so. Especially if that player redownloaded direct from B4Playing.

They will only have the info given to them in the registration, not the info these people sign up at the casino with. Their info may or may not be truthful and accurate.
I rarely give my REAL info for a download like this, and most other people don't either.
In fact, I signed up myself using all fake info! So their realistic tracking ability is flawed right off the bat.
It has to be unless the casinos provide them with the player info which I doubt will happen.

This program winds up being a screw job for all the affiliates on Revenue share that are smart enough to NOT sign up for this thing.

The more affiliates they get to sign on for this LOW BALL CPA deal, the more it hurts the affiliate industry as a whole.
In other words, once they trap a player in their network, they will no doubt cross market that player to all the participating casinos in their network which will diminish the efforts of the Revenue Share affiliates not involved with them.

In the end, this devalues, and decreases the overall value of Revenue Share affiliates by bulking up cheap CPA deals.
I'm sure the casinos like that to be honest.
It's actually a fairly brilliant scheme if they can get enough Affiliates SUCKERED into it.

The simple truth is,.... this is BAD for the affiliate industry on many levels, but most importantly, it will drag our affiliate worth way down, and potentially cost Revenue Share Affiliates a good deal of money if the succeed.
This program is a serious enemy to the Affiliate Community, especially the Revenue Share Affiliate.

think that says it all.

[pgaming]

thanks mynuw for the post

Itay,
Like playing games as illustrated by this post? Would this be the model of support affiliates who sign on the dotted line be treated? By a wink and flag off.

How far are you willing to go? Many members from the GPWA, CAP, and others have some real concerns. I highly doubt any of them would ever be respectfully addressed.

Care for a little chaos, new order, Dead Crow or how about I call my favourite Ziv from Star Wars the movie. Out of respect for the GPWA and members the issues to follow will be discussed at igami. So have fun Itay!

BTW: A little cryptic but if you manage in it will be by my permission.

greek39

[GamblersHeaven]

I never pre-registered either and received the same email as everyone else. I was hoping that was it, but today I received this.

Hi,

Jonathan from B4Playing, the most innovative online casino and poker rooms tool for players.

I want to Introduce the revolutionary Multiple CPA (MCPA) commission, - B4Playing, a smart tool for players that would change the players experience as well as the affiliates’ earnings. For the first time an affiliate can earn above $1000 a player over time.

It is so simple, you promote our tool and your players are converting multiple times to over 75 casinos and poker rooms. You can earn commission every time the user becomes a player in a new property!

Over 350 affiliates have joined our unique affiliate program. To register click the link below:

htXXtp://affiliates.b4playing.com/


Looking forward to teaming up with you

Jonathan
B4Playing Affiliate Team