Buffalo Partners now 10% (Resolved)

[allfreechips]

Wow I thought i got screwed getting pushed down to 25% now i see i'm on 10!!!

[Strider1973]

Hm their website states 25% for 0-10 players.

Maybe you had a big winner in one casino, giving you 0% for that casino, which in total gives you 10%?

[allfreechips]

no im on 10% across the board.. 2% for refferals

[casinobonusguy]

it is likely because you didn't send any players for more than 90 days ,betway just did it to me but unlike INETBET they put you back to 25% when you send one player.

[sweetbet]

7.17.2.3 If, after a 6 month inclusive period, no new active Customers are referred, then Revenue Share will be reduced to 20%. If, after a 12 month inclusive period, no new active Customers are referred, then Revenue Share will be reduced to 10%. Once a new active Customer has been referred, the following month the Revenue Share will be increased to 25% Revenue Share, and then such Revenue Share will increase in line with the number of referrals set out in 7.16.2 above.

[Strider1973]

Oh ok, thanks Sweetbet for posting the fine print.
Seems to be a rather soft rule for me, shouldn't be too difficult to refer 1 RMP every 6 or 12 months...

[allfreechips]

Thinks its best to just keep sending them 0 players than tp get another 15% on my old players that still play each month from before they screwed me over

[spoton]

This happened to me too. Had to get in touch with them, but they increased it back to 25% again shortly. Still, 25% is awfully low and I'd much rather send players elsewhere where they give 50%.

[sweetbet]

I'm not sure if the following info is correct, but if it is it would explain why it's so difficult to get signups.

Tracking Cookies Overwritten: As it is session based, earliest referrer in the session receives credit

Source: www.igamingaffiliateprograms.com/affiliate-program/buffalo-partners/

Doesn't session based mean that if the visitor signed up a day later through a bookmark, then the referring affiliate wouldn't get any credit?

[universal4]

I agree sweetbet, the statement doesn't follow logic, if the cookies are in fact over-written, the latter cookie would be the current session cookie not the earliest, which would be over-written during subsequent referral visits.
Tracking Cookies Overwritten: As it is session based, earliest referrer in the session receives credit

If the earliest referrer gets credit, it seems the cookie would not be over-written.

Rick
Universal4

[casinocrush]

Hey all,
Just noticed that I've been also put down to 10% for a few months and didn't get any warning at all. I find it very difficult to believe not even 1 player referral has taken place in over a year but reading up in here I see that perhaps the way new players are tracked now is there intentionally to make it more difficult.

I was rather surprised last year when my affiliate manager suggested removing some brands from my listings! Now I understand why - they basically wanted to have more chance of reducing my commission by further lessening the chance of referring a new player.

I have written to them today in the hope that they will be reasonable and at least re-instate the 25% minimum for a few months so I can figure out things - they should have at least warned me in advance as its a huge surprise to not have referred 1 player in over a year! I was still advertising them after the last bunch of migrations from other programs where commission / players seemed to drop again!

I'm pretty annoyed as the value of some regular players is quite high and I'm pretty sure they will still be getting a good % but only giving me 10%.

I very much hope they will be reasonable having spent so many years and getting them so many players and profit over that time.

Thanks for others posting here - I haven't been over in a while but glad that I spotted this and it got me to check into it in more detail.

Best wishes all!
G

[allfreechips]

They simply do not care, but 1 new player will put you back on 25%. I only promote them when im on month 3 and need 1 player as after 3 months your on 10%

[hansi007]

I really hate when they do stuff like this. You use a lot of work and meoney to get them players, and then suddenly the change from 25 to 10. I had the same experience with unibet and its just so annoying.

[allfreechips]

Screw that they got me from 40 to 25% then 10% lol... All the time spent with agreements in place out the window, all the cool aff managers gone and they dont care if you bring in 25K a month in revenue all they want is X number of new players even if they only play $10

[casinocrush]

Yes agreed - the % revenue share used to be based on the overall revenue each month - not the number of new players. The money earned should be more important than the new number of players - as like you said - 100 players putting in $20 in is the same as 1 putting $2000 ...

I'm hoping that they will be reasonable and agree to put me back to 25% at least for a few months to give me a chance to refer more - although I'm really finding it difficult to believe that I've not managed to refer 1 player in over a year with all their brands I was generally still listing apart from those that my previous affiliate manager suggested to drop.

[drifter8]

Cutting RS % is the most terrible thing. You all remeber when all of a sudden William Hill made a "chop" from 25 % to the massive 5 %.

Just some of the program do not give care that :

- we put a lot of efforts for each and single brand.

- the percentage should be connected with the turnover of the referred players.

- we invest money in adv campaigns etc.

[Strider1973]

I'm really finding it difficult to believe that I've not managed to refer 1 player in over a year

And I find it hard to believe that you didn't check their stats for RMPs for a year.

I also have a few "abandoned" programs where I don't check stats anymore, but those that are generating the monthly minimum payout I check out regularly (maybe too often

[casinocrush]

And I find it hard to believe that you didn't check their stats for RMPs for a year.

I also have a few "abandoned" programs where I don't check stats anymore, but those that are generating the monthly minimum payout I check out regularly (maybe too often

Well, it's a fair point of course but not all programs have a minimum requirement of new players and well, having been busy with other things lately I didn't monitor them closely enough (I was just checking revenue stats using Nifty Stats and not looking at the new players in detail) but still - it seems a bit unfair not to even send me a warning before changing it (even if automatic - surely an email could have been automatically triggered to warn me before cutting it).

They have replied to me but only basically to say they will put it back when I generate 1 new player. Time to double check all the links track properly I guess as it seems very unusual not to have even 1 in that amount of time for a program.

Cheers

[casinobonusguy]

Another thing on this program affecting our results is fact old vip team is working elsewhere and pulled the big players away.I have family member who shares these emails with me and no wonder my commission dropped so much.

[Former Member 14]

25% is awfully low and I'd much rather send players elsewhere where they give 50%.

I'm not defending Buffalo, but programs couldn't even pay a Super Affiliate a bona fide 50% RS, it's economically impossible.

FYI... Video Slots offer 40% BUT after all their GGR deductions, that 40% turns into average of VS paying $0.03 cents in the dollar. So much for hunting down high-paying percentages. 25% is a decent amount, given, it doesn't literally **** affiliates with absurd (mostly hidden) fees.