Casino forums, business not community

**casinojack** · 16 March 2009, 11:58 am

AS some of you know, i am new to this forum and a few others. I do not think myself a forum spammer, and replay to only threads with useful information, and try not to hijack other threads (not chatting about the fun type threads)

Here is some interesting info. When I started tocome here, and did go throughout he process to become a platinum sponsor, noone told me to "shhh" or not chatting about your pgram till your wire clears. This has been true at the GIA, AGD, and GAP, and a few other, and I thank them for allowing me to participate.

I know 99% of the forums on the internet ar about making money. But it upset me when I am asked to NOT partiicpate on forums unles I pay the 1 - 3k per month to advertise. Some of these forums have like 5 posts a day ??

So instead, last week, I have 500 bucks to a random affilaite, at a random time. I will chat to other forums about adveritsing (of course), but when I cant "test the waters" why would I send them a penny ? They seem to have no confidence. Instead of saying, hey we see you chatting on our forums, and are reachable, and i am sure you have made some money, would you like to advertise ?" I would sya sure, frome me a media kit and we go from there. So far, of the few respsnones on some of these guy, i have not had one sign up or one conversation,a nd they want me to wire them money ?

Hope some affilaites also understand then when some programs cannot be on all forums. Sya there are 10 popular forums each wants a minimum of 1k a month. Thats 100k a year for forums advertising! A lot of money I can get a lot more affilaites with other marketing..

(I did pay for my sponsorship, as I feel this is MORE then a forum, and the owners of this site have beenmore then just a order taker. They assited in my terms and conditions, and have given great feedbacks to make this program affiliate friendly, and they can consider me a partner for life...)

Anyways, this is my rant, curious if other aff managers are having the same challenges. Thanks for listening.

**universal4** · 16 March 2009, 1:59 pm

Nice post,

I have to agree with a lot of what you said...

If it makes you feel better, we could probably raise the ad rates just for you over at the GIA....LOL (nahh....we wouldn't do that....and you can still have the free forum whether you advertise or not...LOL)

And bytheway, the 500 promo is a great idea....

Rick
Universal4

**Renee** · 16 March 2009, 6:31 pm

Originally Posted by casinojack

AS some of you know, i am new to this forum and a few others. I do not think myself a forum spammer, and replay to only threads with useful information, and try not to hijack other threads (not chatting about the fun type threads)

Here is some interesting info. When I started tocome here, and did go throughout he process to become a platinum sponsor, noone told me to "shhh" or not chatting about your pgram till your wire clears. This has been true at the GIA, AGD, and GAP, and a few other, and I thank them for allowing me to participate.

I know 99% of the forums on the internet ar about making money. But it upset me when I am asked to NOT partiicpate on forums unles I pay the 1 - 3k per month to advertise. Some of these forums have like 5 posts a day ??

So instead, last week, I have 500 bucks to a random affilaite, at a random time. I will chat to other forums about adveritsing (of course), but when I cant "test the waters" why would I send them a penny ? They seem to have no confidence. Instead of saying, hey we see you chatting on our forums, and are reachable, and i am sure you have made some money, would you like to advertise ?" I would sya sure, frome me a media kit and we go from there. So far, of the few respsnones on some of these guy, i have not had one sign up or one conversation,a nd they want me to wire them money ?

Hope some affilaites also understand then when some programs cannot be on all forums. Sya there are 10 popular forums each wants a minimum of 1k a month. Thats 100k a year for forums advertising! A lot of money I can get a lot more affilaites with other marketing..

(I did pay for my sponsorship, as I feel this is MORE then a forum, and the owners of this site have beenmore then just a order taker. They assited in my terms and conditions, and have given great feedbacks to make this program affiliate friendly, and they can consider me a partner for life...)

Anyways, this is my rant, curious if other aff managers are having the same challenges. Thanks for listening.

I have to agree with most of what you said... Since all this rubbish has gone down, I think I have received about 20 requests to sponsor forums, most of those being around 1k per month. Personally if that was my individual budget I'd rather spend that money on a flight/accom etc every 3 months to go and personally visit affiliates in their home towns.

One thing that I like is that even though I've had to turn down some sponsorships on other forums which are becoming better known every day, the owners will still let you post there.. that speaks volumes in itself IMO.

**casinojack** · 16 March 2009, 6:42 pm

You have yet to have any forum owners ask you to NOT participate unless you pay ? They just hate me ?

**Renee** · 16 March 2009, 6:48 pm

Originally Posted by casinojack

You have yet to have any forum owners ask you to NOT participate unless you pay ? They just hate me ?

Thats right... most have told me to stick around and post if I want.. obviously I'm not posting stuff about/advertising our program though so that might be why they are happy for me to stay.

**casinojack** · 16 March 2009, 7:01 pm

Yeah I was NOT advertising, but my signature was the issue... Also I did respond to a couple , but was people asking who did what...

Plus your a woman, they like you more

**Renee** · 16 March 2009, 7:34 pm

Originally Posted by casinojack

Yeah I was NOT advertising, but my signature was the issue... Also I did respond to a couple , but was people asking who did what...

Plus your a woman, they like you more

Yeah it must be coz I have boobs

Seriously though, most of the owners or people inviting me have been women, or people I have a pretty good relationship with anyway, so I doubt that's the reason.

Maybe you should get rid of your signature there.. I dont think I've made myself signatures at those other forums. Also, I havent been penalised for mentioning in a newbie section that im the affiliate coordinator at Rewards Affiliates..

**giggles7p** · 16 March 2009, 8:32 pm

Hi Casinojack, its triple777s for GAP, and i want to thank you for including BB1's new place as one of the "friendly" sites!

Your always welcomed there! And of course this place is awesome to! lol

giggles

**kwblue** · 16 March 2009, 8:58 pm

Everyone is welcome at AGD too with signatures

Unless you are Renee (j/k!!!)

Seriously, though, unless a program has a ton of predatory terms - they are welcome to post away with sigs. All forums should be that way, but I don't (unfortunately) own all forums, so I have no say in it

The good ones allow sigs without $$$$.

**bb1web** · 16 March 2009, 9:22 pm

Plus your a woman, they like you more

He's got my number there.

Yeah it must be coz I have boobs

Can you make yours do like the smilies? Cause that's an extra 10 pts.

Pat, I should be paying you and maybe someday I'll be able. Thanks for thinking of me.

**wagerprofits** · 16 March 2009, 9:50 pm

Funny I have not been invited to post on many forums must be the fact that I upset a lot of people.

I have to agree the GPWA is a great home I think the GPWA team are awsome the only other thread that I post on is PAL I think i might have posted once on CAP but I am sure they will close my account down very soon.

Shaun

**giggles7p** · 16 March 2009, 9:56 pm

Well Shaun your always welcome over at GAP, its the friendly new spot. lol

we don't bite, and we love GPWA, so your safe at either sites lol

BB1 - Its only my pleasure, i love your place and think your terrific too!

and btw, i have boobie to, and mine do make smile faces...sometimes! lol

**wagerprofits** · 16 March 2009, 10:05 pm

GAP!!!!

Is this another new forum???

Is the association that Chris is part of???

If you dont mind what is the purpose of the site?

Shaun

Originally Posted by giggles7p

Well Shaun your always welcome over at GAP, its the friendly new spot. lol

we don't bite, and we love GPWA, so your safe at either sites lol

BB1 - Its only my pleasure, i love your place and think your terrific too!

and btw, i have boobie to, and mine do make smile faces...sometimes! lol

**casinobonusguy** · 16 March 2009, 10:34 pm

Shaun ,
BBI forum is not associated with Chris but he has been GAP for a couple months now

I don't know how we will keep up with all of the GAP FORUMS LOL .Steve was kind enough to give us a place to hang out and vent

**LiveCasinoPartners** · 16 March 2009, 11:58 pm

I've never had any problems like that CJ. So far, I've found that posting a limited number of places meets my needs in terms of what I need from the experience. I haven't really started advertising via external forum posts yet. Where do you find the time!! lol.. You've got a ton of things going on.

Cheers!

**bb1web** · 17 March 2009, 12:33 am

We're good aren't we Jack? I can't remember how it worked out for you ... other than we had trouble with figuring out the signatures (there's a surprise, and actually it was me having the trouble).

my signature was the issue...

And I haven't asked anybody for anything in terms of money ...

though Renee may have backed herself into a corner on this boob thing ... (just kidding you Dear)

**bb1web** · 17 March 2009, 12:37 am

If it wouldn't get me in trouble with ladies I'd have a complete section devoted just to boobies.

Maybe I'd get Mr C and Steven to visit

**wagerprofits** · 17 March 2009, 12:41 am

An invite would be nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shaun

Originally Posted by bb1web

If it wouldn't get me in trouble with ladies I'd have a complete section devoted just to boobies.

Maybe I'd get Mr C and Steven to visit

**universal4** · 17 March 2009, 3:06 am

Well not to step on Steve's invites, but you guys are all welcome at the GIA as well. We have been up and running a little over 3 years now....

Rick
Universal4

**bb1web** · 17 March 2009, 7:24 am

www.gamblingaffiliateplace.com Shaun. And I'm pretty sure we wrote your program but maybe it was missed.

Cheers

S.

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