Cheating by a affiliate website (Pokersourceonline.com)

[akhil_jks]

Dear all,


I'm Akhilesh Sharma from India, a translation services provider. I'm posting this message to you because one of my clients in this online gambling industry- Pokersourceonline.com has backstabbed me. Another client of mine as well as some more people have advised me to post this incident in this forum to know what I can do against this company.


I recently worked with Pokersourceonline.com and translated their website to 5 languages. I agreed to provide quality and fast turnarounds which we did but there was some mistakes in the russian translations- in the starting files. The client Michael ** told me about that after almost all work was finished and in very bad words, he asked me to amend the files which they want- I AGREED.


But they didn't sent ANY of the files to be amended and time went by. Instead, they sent me emails after a long time that they had to do the proof reading themselves which had cost them 15000 USD and they will deduct this payment from my outstanding invoice!! And today I received the payment with 15000 USD less.


I can forward all emails between us to anyone(if you want to see) and also the evidences so that you could know who is guilty and who is innocent. I agreed to work for this man at so less rates because he promised me that there will be more than 1 million words to be translated in his websites. Firstly, he asked me to proof read the docs again and when I agreed to, he didnt sent any document and I didn't accepted any big project from other clients only for him. And atlast, he did this to me.


I'm posting here with the hope that you will give me justice or guide me. We have worked for more than 26 online gambling websites including partygaming websites and we also do regular work for pokerlistings.com. I can give you contact details of ALL of my clients so that you may contact them and know about our authenticity.


I'll also contact all major poker rooms we have worked for and tell them about this company. If they have stabbed my back, they can do it to anyone. Please, help me in this regard.



Looking forward to your reply.


Thanks,
Akhilesh Sharma

[pgaming]

Quick question what motivated you to post this info here?

greek39

[akhil_jks]

Quick question what motivated you to post this info here?

greek39

Some of my clients advised me to post this incident here and see what other affiliates say and advice. They also advised me to post it on pokeraffiliateworld.com forum.

[pgaming]

I would certainly be interested in hearing what others may have to say as well.

greek39

[akhil_jks]

We are in this business since 5 years and have been working for high profile clients. This is the first time someone cheated me like that. They were due to send 41886.72 USD and they sent less alleging that the quality was bad, I sent the docs to many other translation partners and also other clients to check what was wrong with them and no one of them found any serious problem.


We are working for the betterment of this industry by translating the content to a lot of languages so that our clients get higher profits and it's really sad if someone does this. I can provide evidences to prove that what I'm saying is genuine and I have been cheated by this company.

[akhil_jks]

Yes, I'm looking forward to know what other affiliates say about this. And if anyone has any doubt about my authenticity, I can provide details of all my clients so that you may ask them about us. Also, I can give evidences to support what I said above.

[fandv]

Someone just alerted me of this post here on GPWA. There is the same post on Poker Affiliate World and rather than starting another 10 page thread here I'm just going to post the link to PAW here with my replies.

http://www.pokeraffiliateworld.com/f...e-website.html

- Mike Jackness

[AussieDave]

Hi all,

I decided to post here as I believe this matter requires a venue that will not hold bias.

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Not knowing either party I'm perplexed and frankly flabbergasted over this matter.

What really stood out, shocked me, was no one had checked this persons credentials.

party poker & their casino are very well known.

It doesn't take a road scholar to figure out a ball park estimate on the total outlay fee for this project; Akhilesh provided the per word charges before commencement in his email correspondence with you (mike).

You (mike) operate a Poker affiliate forum (by all accounts a successfully one at that)...

I'm sure your no stranger to IO's (insertion orders). Having dealt with some very large players of the gaming industry myself, they all require some form of contractual agreement, signed, dated and faxed before entering into any project. Especially one such as this.

As I've not read nor seen any mention of a contractual agreement, I find that risqué at best and more than a little suspect at worst.

Are you saying you don't hold alliances or know people in the business. In this case direct ties to the upper echelon of party poker? Personally if you say no, I really find that hard to believe. Based on the fact you have them listed on your site as I assume some type of sponsor...

xxxhttp://www.pokeraffiliateworld.com/PartyPoker.com.aff.htm

Hence it really astounds me that you or someone in your company didn't veto this person.

Sorry... but who in the right mind deals with some unknown person in India on the basis of an email and MSN. Then sends them $86,817 without so much as checking their work!

I could say a fool and his money are soon parted...but that's obviously not the case as you have a successful poker affiliate site. Hence what has transpired makes even less sense when you introduce the aforementioned surmise.

I'm not taking sides, reiterating I don't know either of you. But, based on what I've read so far, from where I'm sitting, things just don't add up here.



Regards

Dave


Edit: Why was an escrow service not used in this matter?
Things like this...2+2 simply don't add up. I personally don't believe the full story is being laid on the table or presented in its true factual light.

[AussieDave]

I sent the docs to many other translation partners and also other clients to check what was wrong with them and no one of them found any serious problem.

When you state "no one of them found any serious problem"...

Your not saying no one found any problems or errors. Hence what errors were found and what percentage of these amounted to the entire project?


Regards

David

PS also...I'd be interested to know the clients you've dealt with. Would you care to post these here...

[akhil_jks]

Hello David,


Thanks for your comments. Please email me at akhil_jks@yahoo.com and I'll be more than happy to send you our client list. Then you may ask anyone of them about me.


About the errors you are asking, yes, there were a few mistakes in the starting russian files(I don't know the percentage though- may be you wanna check the files) and after that, the translations manager of PSO, Scott, told me that the rest of the content is pretty fine! You may check at page 3 of the post in PAW, in one of the emails I posted.


When we talk about translations, there is every scope of a "change". I mean, no 2 translators can 100% agree with a translated text. Everyone has its own style of translating things and this has created the problem in this project. Mike has sent the docs to many other clients of mine and also his friends to check the quality but he hasn't mentioned all those who find the quality good in the post at Poker Affiliate World. He has only mentioned those who didnt find the quality that good!


What the bottomline is, PSO told me to amend the files, I AGREED, then they didn;'t sent ANY files to be amended and deducted money instead!


Please email me and I'll send you our client list. Not posting here because some clients don't like their names to be mentioned in open forums. But ofcourse, I can mention PartyGaming websites here- we have translated Partypoker.com, PartyCasino.com, PartyCashier.com and also, we do regular work for Pokerlistings. Email me for references!


Thanks you,
Akhilesh Sharma

[akhil_jks]

Posted same thing here, please see page 1.

[akhil_jks]

David

PS also...I'd be interested to know the clients you've dealt with. Would you care to post these here...[/quote]


Haven't heard from you till now. I got to go now, will check the post this evening and then I'll reply accordingly. Either email me at akhil_jks@yahoo.com or let me know if you want me to send you our client list here in personal message.


ANY other question/evidences required about our authenticity, just let me know.


Thanks,
Akhilesh Sharma

[mortelette]

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[akhil_jks]

I have just sent the client list to you Dave. Should you want to know any client's contact address, just let me know.

[LadyHoldem]

Our Portfolio:
PartyGaming.com Ltd.: We have recently completed 3 big projects for PartyGaming.com Limited, Gibraltar. We have translated their 3 websites in 10 languages. These websites are:

www.partypoker.com
www.partycashier.com
www.partycasino.com

The Languages in which we translated these websites are: French, Spanish,
German, Russian, Danish, Norwegian, Chinese(Simplified), Finnish, Portuguese and
Swedish.

Everypoker.com : We are doing translations for them from English to 3
languages. More languages to be done.

Rakeback.org : We are doing translations for them from English to German, more
languages to be done.

Blackhawkcolorado.com : We are doing translations for them from English to
German, French, Spanish, Danish and Swedish.

Online-Gambling-Insider.com : We are doing translations for them from English
to French and Spanish. We are also going to translate in some more languages for
this site.

Worldcasinodirectory.com : We are doing translations for them from English to
German and French.

Poker-Babes.com : We are doing translations for them from English to 9
languages.

WebGuidepartner.com Ltd. : We are doing translation for them from English to 10
languages.

TheGamblersedge.com : We are doing translations for them from English to
French, Spanish, German and Polish languages.

Cardschat.com : We are doing translations for them from English to about 6
languages.

Holiday-Rentals.com : We have done a big project for a company in
UK(www.holiday-rentals.com) (part of WVR Group Limited, USA - www.wvrgroup.com )
involving English to French and vice versa translations.

Stortford Documentation services, Hertfordshire, UK(www.stortdoc.co.uk)We have
done an Adobe Illustrator project for Stortford, a technical documentation
company based in Hertford shire, UK. We have done 476 graphics for them with
translations in French and Spanish (238 graphics in French and 238 in Spanish).
The project was for Subaru, an automobile company. Please ask for samples if you
wish to judge them for quality.

This is public info at PAW, so I didn't see any harm in posting it here.

[akhil_jks]

This is public info at PAW, so I didn't see any harm in posting it here.

Yes, it has been posted by Mike(not by me) and I can send you the names of many more websites we have translated after sending this portfolio to him. But please take out Cardschat.com, this client don't want his site to be mentioned in open, without asking him.


Rest, it's Ok. Let me know if you want more sites to be mentioned here when you have done it without asking me! I can't ask Mike to take out the websites because I simply don't wanna talk to that man but atleast you should have asked me before posting this info again.