Attention ALL Affiliate Programs and ALL Affiliates

[universal4]

It is fast becoming nearly impossible to effective review many many online casino properties.

Any casino property that use geotargeting and IP checking to redirect restricted countries or US States they can not service has made our jobs very difficult.

Many of us as part of our every day promotional activites write reviews of the casino properties we market. A natural part of the review process is to actually VISIT the sites we are trying to review.

There are litterally a few casinos which we may have no other choice but to stop marketing them because we can no longer update our pages with current information.

In many cases, we are unable to see current bonus information, review terms, review the loyalty and VIP Programs, find out more information on upcoming tournaments and special promotions and on and on....

Yes, thank you for supplying us with this ever so vital information by email blasts and newsletters, thanks for the offers of supplying us the casino websites on cd, (the problem with that is that by the time many of us recieved the cd's the casino sites would have been updated and thus the webmasters would have been supplied with outdated information).

NOTHING can or will replace sitting down and visiting the casino and reading the terms, promos etc EXACTLY the way our visitors will see it when we send them to your property.

US Webmasters can not visit and view many Playtech's and some RTG's. US Webmasters in some states can not visit and view some Microgaming Properties. And webmasters from a different set of states can not visit certain skill gaming properties.

We need a solution!

I have discussed this issue with a few of my fellow webmasters so we have decided to post this issue publicly so that we may find a solution that would suit everyone.

One suggestion has been made to have the developers create pages on the affiliate sites that pull the casino sites into IFrames without the IP checking so that we may view them. (this would mean the IP of the affiliate sites IP would be seen on the casino not the webmaster's) We are not sure if this is a viable solution, so this is a perfect time for discussion.

Come one, come all, be that one affiliate manager or webmaster to come up with a solution that will help all webmasters and all affiliate programs.

Rick
Universal4

Note: In some cases a thread similar to this may exist in your private forum. If so, once a solution is found we recommend a public post be made with the details so that others may also benefit from the discussion.

[bb1web]

US Webmasters can not visit and view many Playtech's and some RTG's. US Webmasters in some states can not visit and view some Microgaming Properties. And webmasters from a different set of states can not visit certain skill gaming properties.

just a thought. But perhaps this info should be made aware to some US rights place .... as I view it as an improvision on my rights to free speech.

playing there is one thing ... seeing it is another.

while I have not encountered such instance .... I would view it as a great offense to my right to free speech issues.

kinda pisses me off to find out this ..... in fact. lousy B#stards!

[joeyl]

Maybe surfing anonymously websites and programmes might work.

http://www.shadowsurf.com/

[Ziggy]

Yes, it is quite akin to "Net Nanny." We are blocked because of censorship beyond our control.

Anyone in the U.S. can see porn, but not these online gambling sites.

Some of these companies have got to take a stand at some point, hopefully as a group.

It is a given that the U.S. Administration has its head up a rather dark void; but trying to start rigging ways for us to "see" these sites will, in my opinion, just cause more problems and confusion

Good god, someone needs to grow bolas.

[bb1web]

Good god, someone needs to grow bolas.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Hi again all,

aside from my suggestion if you want help from the Big Guy Upstairs ... that you learn to capatalize his name ...... I cannot agree more Z. .....

[ogpaper]

There are billions of websites which offer FREE fresh listings of proxy servers all over the world.

Just go to one of them.

Do a search for "free proxy". Most of them have instructions on how to use it - it takes 5 seconds.

P.S.

I visited a few PlayTech casinos and they all seem to open fine for me, using US IP.

This redirect is done by the casino, not by some government agency. The casino is either:

a.) Redirecting to a brand of theirs which accepts US players or a free (.net) product.
b.) sell the traffic to someone else.

[Amateur]

There are billions of websites which offer FREE fresh listings of proxy servers all over the world.

Just go to one of them.

Do a search for "free proxy". Most of them have instructions on how to use it - it takes 5 seconds.

P.S.

I visited a few PlayTech casinos and they all seem to open fine for me, using US IP.

This redirect is done by the casino, not by some government agency. The casino is either:

a.) Redirecting to a brand of theirs which accepts US players or a free (.net) product.
b.) sell the traffic to someone else.

Depending on which state you live in, sites will still show up without a problem. Also depends on your isp, whether dialup or dsl as well or cable.

However, the proxy server may be viable for some sites that allow some states to participate. Sites that do not serve the US at all, may not allow any isp's from the US to view their sites.

It's not a one-answer solution to this issue though, if programs that don't serve the US, still want successful webmasters from the US to continue to market their casinos.

[Dominique]

I don't really see why the US is blocked from free play anyway.

[universal4]

Steve,

All the Blasters and Allstar properties redirect me to Golden Casino. Even Golden Palace Bingo directs me there although they have no bingo.

When looking at Wager Junction properties, Geisha Lounge, Grand Aces and Kingo Solomons go where they were intended, but Hampton, Portofino, Windows, Gold Key and Magic Oasis go to King Solomons TV

Rick
Universal4

[universal4]

Through more of my research, it appears the standard IFrame is out of the question.

When the page is requested from the server web server, the request is passed through the secondary server with the IP still tagged to the request of the browser that will get the page.

Yes, proxies may work, but I am looking for an alternative to that.

Rick
Universal4

[ogpaper]

Yes, proxies do work, and it's the best and easiest way to do it.

Go here: http://www.publicproxyservers.com/page1.html and pick a Bolivian proxy if you want.

[pgaming]

Yes, proxies do work, and it's the best and easiest way to do it.

Go here: http://www.publicproxyservers.com/page1.html and pick a Bolivian proxy if you want.

Might work for some but I don't see how this would mask your PC indentity. This is a little more complex must consider many things. But proxy IP is a step in the right direction.

greek39

[chalkoutline]

Good post Rick and Meri.

Some programs (e.g. Belle Rock) have codes that can be used to force the view to show what visitors from a particular country would see when visiting the site. This is done using a query string variable tagged on to the end of the URL. Perhaps other programs could do this too? It should just be a fairly minor code change.

[pgaming]

I agree good post Rick and Meri. I was unaware this was taking place most disturbing. There are million and one ways around this. I am confident some reliable solutions will be found soon good luck!!!

greek39

[ogpaper]

Might work for some but I don't see how this would mask your PC indentity. This is a little more complex must consider many things. But proxy IP is a step in the right direction.

greek39

Why would you want to mask your PC identity?!?

Maybe I did not understand the post - I tought the guy was trying to visit a casino website from a banned state/country, no?

If so, changing your IP address is all you need.

On another note, I am accessing a whole bunch of PlayTech from a banned state, and they show fine. It used to be they would transfer me to a .net website, but I guess they realised that letting banned players sign-up, and then telling them that they cannot play, would accumulate a big list of players which they can either sell or use at a later time...

[techwoman]

I so far have been trying many different proxy servers which I found from a search.

At this time I have been able to view a few casino websites that I had not been able to.

I am at the point where if I cannont access a casino website at least with a proxy they will be cut way back on exposure or removed completely. As a responsible webmaster I use the casino sites as a tool for my marketing, it's one of my most important tools too! To be a successful marketer you must know your product.

[WinYourWayKyle]

I agree with someone that made a post above about using proxy servers. There are millions of sites that can do this for you, therefore resulting in you being able to vis it the online gaming sites you want, and when you live in the us.

From what I have read from everyone else above, this would be my best suggestion so far.... but I am sure more people have many other ideas....

[Topboss]

Rick and Meri
I am more than happy to access the casinos for you and send you screenshots of the promo pages etc if it will help you at all