View Poll Results: All affiliates get yearly from US market

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    Default Estimation how much affiliates earn from US operators per year

    This is something I am scared to estimate even roughly. I am curious about crowdsourcing. Please do not look at poll results (not sure if they are shown). I am curious simply about number that all affiliates (agents, pay per head, backups for locals) might get.
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    Nowhere close to 2B IMO.

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    I will let the poll ride unbiased. Hoping that some US affiliates that come here will vote. Then I will share some thoughts. They will be wrong, but what can I do.
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    When you say US operators - I assume you mean the "offshore" online organisations accepting US players?
    And we are attempting to guess a value even though I have no idea how many profitable affiliates there are?

    For the purposes of the poll I will assume that there are 10,000 affiliates and our results are in top quartile.
    In which case the poll is easy ...

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    I assume you mean the "offshore" online organisations accepting US players
    Yes. About the money that they pay to their partners for delivering customers. But since sometimes agents bet on behalf of customers and get the rev share, I am asking also about this. I guess the agent/local market will be still superior to classic affiliate market and online bookie, where the player is sending money directly, but I guess someone will clarify that.

    One thing is sure from poll: so far we disagree totally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGooner View Post
    For the purposes of the poll I will assume that there are 10,000 affiliates and our results are in top quartile.
    Went a different route: from big casino groups monthly NDP numbers and from there estimating the total NDP numbers.

    I might be way off cause familiar only with the casino side.
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    According to a paper by the Morgan Stanley research group dated September 10, 2014; "We cut our US online gaming market forecast to $1.3B in '17 (prior $3.5B) and $5B in '20 (prior $8B)."

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    The wording how much affiliates earn... 2billion not sure I can say turnover for sure surpasses that, but if you include pay per head and the street agents then it would have to pass that, I think just a couple of states in the North would pass that number perhaps? they say its a 400 billion industry so it's possible


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetbet View Post
    According to a paper by the Morgan Stanley research group dated September 10, 2014; "We cut our US online gaming market forecast to $1.3B in '17 (prior $3.5B) and $5B in '20 (prior $8B)."
    Just reminder
    Morgan Stanley CEO James P. Gorman called bitcoin “totally surreal” and admitted he didn't understand it
    I do not dispute here what Morgan Stanly say about gambling market size. But I do not believe that huge corps (esp. those bailouted quasi state) know accurate numbers about real economy. How they evaluate illegal markets is totally surreal.

    I can give here example of lunatic extimation of illegal market, but do not want to fork debate.
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