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    Default Google SERP Changes?

    Is anybody noticing anything? We have literally fallen from Google. I think Google SERP's have gone back to a few months ago?

    There is a big page experience update but we have no problems there but yet we went from for example position 15 for football betting tips, to position 40 and now not even top 100 and it's the same with most things.
    Impression and clicks literally feel off a cliff Thursday/Friday and i think was today we disappeared pretty much completely.

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    1. Do you have a message in GSC? Manual or other penalties?
    2. What type of links did you build?

    This could also be a Google dance for a few weeks.

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    No messages and no penalties.
    Normal links.

    The only thing is core web vitals in GSC showing as needing improvement for loading longer than 2.5 seconds. But they are 91 and 99/100 on google page speed lol! So i imagine everybody has that issue?

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    I've spent all afternoon on speed and can't get it under 2.5 seconds but i am super quick and can get it to 2.5 seconds ish. Then had a look and the competition all a lot slower than 2.5 seconds (including top) and some of them are like 37/100 lol!

    I have no clue what's going on but i do think it's the google update and i think it is an error essentially which will hopefully sort itself out within a few days.

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    post your domain name..
    i am sure GPWA can work out what happened..

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    big broad core update and another coming next month.. the results are a compelte mess.. im having to write long tail for everything im actually searching for now, and even then its throwing random results, bing is actaully more precise rigth now


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    Quote Originally Posted by ddm View Post
    post your domain name..
    i am sure GPWA can work out what happened..
    It is the one in his sig, scores match up.

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    very few links even fewer strong.. then flooded with blogspot junk giving him a 97% junk link profile.. however these started showing on pretty much every gambling related site since the last broad core, is this spam or is this a off algo picking up junk ready to fix or readjust on the July update? very rare google does two broads.. and even rarer they mention it which would gave mne the idea that things are gonna be skewed, thats the way i saw it anyhow


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorebetting View Post
    Is anybody noticing anything? We have literally fallen from Google. I think Google SERP's have gone back to a few months ago?

    There is a big page experience update but we have no problems there but yet we went from for example position 15 for football betting tips, to position 40 and now not even top 100 and it's the same with most things.
    Impression and clicks literally feel off a cliff Thursday/Friday and i think was today we disappeared pretty much completely.
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    Has anyone noticed 50% of the top money keywords are not showing gambling sites but actual news sites with the post acting as a money page? example https://www.miamiherald.com/indulge/...250831589.html

    https://www.globenewswire.com/en/new...n-the-USA.html

    https://www.laweekly.com/best-online...oney-gambling/

    Major news sites promoting offshore gambling?

    Also im noticing overcrowding in top20 with some sites having 4 spaces..


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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderpunter View Post
    Has anyone noticed 50% of the top money keywords are not showing gambling sites but actual news sites with the post acting as a money page? example https://www.miamiherald.com/indulge/...250831589.html

    https://www.globenewswire.com/en/new...n-the-USA.html

    https://www.laweekly.com/best-online...oney-gambling/

    Major news sites promoting offshore gambling?

    Also im noticing overcrowding in top20 with some sites having 4 spaces..

    Prnewswire with its press releases been taking top positions for the last 3 months. Even looks like the same guys are publishing their stuff through other similar sites as well, like the ones you mentioned above. I think it's a matter of time and they will fly off the top positions...

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    Update: I think i know what is going on.

    I have found a few other people with similar problems and it appears it is to do with not loading under 2.5 seconds! Which nobodies site really does but it doesn't seem to be a problem if you have a good DA and has been absolutely screwing new sites since the recent update.

    I have managed to get most pages under 2.5 seconds and should be able to get the rest now i am pretty sure that is the issue.

    Also i do think this is essentially an error from Google and will sort itself anyway in time.

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    I have things running pretty quick and have asked GSC to validate and let's see what happens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorebetting View Post
    Update: I think i know what is going on.

    I have found a few other people with similar problems and it appears it is to do with not loading under 2.5 seconds! Which nobodies site really does but it doesn't seem to be a problem if you have a good DA and has been absolutely screwing new sites since the recent update.

    I have managed to get most pages under 2.5 seconds and should be able to get the rest now i am pretty sure that is the issue.

    Also i do think this is essentially an error from Google and will sort itself anyway in time.
    i load in 0.8.. nothignm to do with that.. its either some new shady tactic or a problem with the algo i will wait for the 2nd update.


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    Your LCP is 3.6s. And that is what i think the issue is.

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    Trsut me its not that.. lcp is sub 2 seconds and sub 1 on many pages.. which of the thousands pages are you talking about?


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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderpunter View Post
    Has anyone noticed 50% of the top money keywords are not showing gambling sites but actual news sites with the post acting as a money page? example https://www.miamiherald.com/indulge/...250831589.html

    https://www.globenewswire.com/en/new...n-the-USA.html

    https://www.laweekly.com/best-online...oney-gambling/

    Major news sites promoting offshore gambling?

    Also im noticing overcrowding in top20 with some sites having 4 spaces..
    Global domination from the telegraph website from where I'm sitting.

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    Well it's impossible (and probably foolish) to categorically state that it definitely isn't a page speed thing. However, logically.....

    1. It's highly unlikely given competitors are worse and even if they weren't then it would seem a little early for CWV 'failings' to be impacting heavily
    2. It would be all over every current SEO discussion on the internet...and it doesn't seem to be

    Yeah, it's possible they stuck something in the algorithm that says 'devalue any new page/site published in the last x months if it's 'failing' a metric...but even that doesn't seem a logical approach.

    So more likely it's something else. You may be barking up the right tree, but more likely the wrong one.

    Spell out one of the affected URLs and where in results it was for a couple of search terms before the drops and you might get some extra viewpoints on what may be causing it


    Update - scrub that, read the first post properly and can see it's for 'football betting tips' and assume that means home page.


    So my wild guess...and may seem harsh....assuming it's a fairly new site...then you (very likely) never 'deserved' to be there anyway for that level of term (even Gooner is on page 6 for me....+ a bunch of other names I recognize that are longstanding sites)....so maybe G just caught up with you.
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    Definitely some movement on my usa-facing site last Thursday / Friday. My site was punished in Dec 4 core update. I made changes which may or may not help but last Thursday / Friday was the first sign of a meagre improvement. I wouldn't draw any conclusions about your serps position until part 2 of this core update is introduced shortly in July. We are in the eye of the storm and I think the big winds are coming, given how it was just a light breeze with part 1.

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    If you want Google to rank your homepage for the football betting tips keyword, you must provide on that page football betting tips with information that supports your tips.

    At the moment, on your page are listed only "What We Do", without even one single tip. I'm referring to your headline: Here at Score Betting we provide the best free sports and football betting tips on the internet!

    We provide in depth research including stats, predictions and most importantly analysis to bring the best free super tips. Our competitors simply cannot compete as they post hundreds of articles with no depth or actual human analysis. Our football tips consist of articles mainly focusing on the Premier League in the form of a Weekend and Midweek Article as well as European Weekend and Midweek fixtures and match specific articles on all the biggest games.

    Also, your other page where those sports betting tips meant to be (www.scorebetting.co.uk/football-tips) sounds like a story without any tips listed again.

    Google simply will not serve your page to your potential visitors that search for football tips. Because they need to see real tips on your page, but not stories about tips, what you do and how.
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