Help me decide between two domains...

[thebookiesoffers]

good luck then mate

[Anthony]

Fine choice, let us know how your experiments play out!

[Gabriel_LCP]

Great choice! I was going to say that one, I noticed mostly everyone went in that direction as well. Nicely done a good luck!

[xecutable]

Why not just buy both, develop both and get all of the traffic for both?

[baldidiot]

Why not just buy both, develop both and get all of the traffic for both?

I had both already, so it was just deciding which to use and both terms are pretty similar so the same site can easily go after both.

[bonusbetting]

All things being equal, I would pick a two word domain over a three word domain.

LondonCasinos is much more memorable.

I have a fear of trying to build a brand on anything that isn't .com or .co.uk though - The thought of users wanting to find my .org and typing .com scares me

Having said that, I know a site that ranks very well on a .me.uk domain. Google UK seems to give a LOT of weight to EM CC TLDs.

[gambling29]

go for london casinos sounds make better. did u made a keyword research ?

[planbpayments]

If i were in your position i would go with :LondonCasinos.org.uk

[joert]

this thread is directly relevant to a query I have actually.

if you have both domain names(.com and .co.uk for the same name like, say, , pokersoccer.com and pokersoccer.co.uk), what is the best thing to do from these two-

1-use both domains and lay them out the same, but make the content slightly different (alot of work yes?)
or
2-Set your site up on one, and redirect the other to it.

For option two, does the search engine see the redirected address as having the same content as the main site? This has always confused me!

[betinstyle]

Agreed - londoncasinos.org.uk ftw!

+1 !!

[joert]

It's more of an experiment than anything else, I want to see how well CPC advertising works (ok, I want to know the CPC value, lol) now that you can opt into receiving gambling ads on the adsense network (I checked first and the sites topic was given the ok by google, just in case anyone is interested).

I also want to see how easily a site like this can attract natural links once you remove the affiliate aspect of it.

Plus there are a few other things I want to play around with...

(I come from a science background so I'm all about the experiments )

hey baldidiot, just had a look at your site. Im no wordpress expert, but someone who really knows what they are on about checked out a site that i had made with that theme you are using from woothemes , and said the code was absolute ****. I also had alot of problems with it- trying to change things around, and it has major limitations. Just letting you know anyway dude. The site looks pretty good all the same to me right now.

[thebookiesoffers]

this thread is directly relevant to a query I have actually.

if you have both domain names(.com and .co.uk for the same name like, say, , pokersoccer.com and pokersoccer.co.uk), what is the best thing to do from these two-

1-use both domains and lay them out the same, but make the content slightly different (alot of work yes?)
or
2-Set your site up on one, and redirect the other to it.

For option two, does the search engine see the redirected address as having the same content as the main site? This has always confused me!

what you could do is set one site up as your money site, use the .co.uk domain if you are targeting UK, then set up a blog on the other and build links to the first site from the blog.

[rak]

Agreed - londoncasinos.org.uk ftw!

Without a doubt!

Also SEO wise.. doesnt the "in" get ignored by the big G?
casinosinlondon.org.uk so it gets read as casinos london.. pretty much the same as london casinos.

[baldidiot]

this thread is directly relevant to a query I have actually.

if you have both domain names(.com and .co.uk for the same name like, say, , pokersoccer.com and pokersoccer.co.uk), what is the best thing to do from these two-

1-use both domains and lay them out the same, but make the content slightly different (alot of work yes?)
or
2-Set your site up on one, and redirect the other to it.

For option two, does the search engine see the redirected address as having the same content as the main site? This has always confused me!

Depends. You could have two unique but related sites aimed at two different markets - eg: have the .com as an international site and the .uk as a UK targeted site. Or you could pick one and 301 the other to it.

When you redirect a domain to another it isn't seen as two sites with the same content as you're ending up at a final destination URL - eg: sitea.com redirects to siteb.com, you end up on siteb.com.

This shouldn't be confused with web services that frame the site on the second URL - eg: you're seeing siteb.com's content but still on sitea.com's URL. This would be seen as dupe content and should be avoided - make sure you use a 301 redirect.

hey baldidiot, just had a look at your site. Im no wordpress expert, but someone who really knows what they are on about checked out a site that i had made with that theme you are using from woothemes , and said the code was absolute ****. I also had alot of problems with it- trying to change things around, and it has major limitations. Just letting you know anyway dude. The site looks pretty good all the same to me right now.

I've used it on a couple of sites and it seems ok. I don't bother using the control panel or theme settings to move things, I just go in and butcher the code so I get it how I want it.

what you could do is set one site up as your money site, use the .co.uk domain if you are targeting UK, then set up a blog on the other and build links to the first site from the blog.

It's only a ****-about site so probably not worth it, although a london casino blog for other purposes isn't a bad idea. I'll add it to my (ever growing) list - cheers bud!

Without a doubt!

Also SEO wise.. doesnt the "in" get ignored by the big G?
casinosinlondon.org.uk so it gets read as casinos london.. pretty much the same as london casinos.

I used to think that, but if you google 'casinos london' and 'casinos in london' you get pretty different results (albiet with some simlarities) so now I'm not sure.

Also in case anyone's curious, thanks to googles current love of ccTLD's it popped straight in on the first page of google.co.uk for 'london casinos'.

[thebookiesoffers]

i was on about the joeart fella lol

[baldidiot]

i was on about the joeart fella lol

Oh, lol. Well good idea anyway

[joert]

the bookiesoffers/baldidiot, thanks for coming back to me, really appreciate it.

The bookiesoffers- that sounds like a good idea- to put a blog on the .com for international users with links to the .co.uk, and target the .co.uk at the UK.

one thing thing that confuses me though is what would you put on that other blog? As in, how does one blog about free bets etc.? haha. For example, would you have affiliate links on there aswell, or only links to the .co.uk?

Baldidiot, on the 301 redirect thing- does that virtually waste a domain name? One concept i cant seem to get to grips with is whether or not someone in say Australia searches the original example 'pokersoccer'. Will they ever see the pokersoccer.com domain in their results, or will they only see .co.uk?

To put it another way,; if i redirect the .com to the .co.uk, is the only usefulness of the .com then simply on the off chance that someone types into their browser-pokersoccer.com?

I hope i'm being clear, if i'm not please have patience with me!

[thebookiesoffers]

it really depends on how much work you want to put into, say you are going down the 'free bets' line. What you could do is have that site all set up and optimized and then write about bookies latest betting offers on the blog deep linking then to each relevant free bet page. If you are doing it for pure seo purposes then i wouldn't bother placing affiliate links on there as you'll just reduce the link juice going back to your money site

Just to add about the redirect as well if the .com previously had a site on it and had links pointing to it the all that benefit just about will go to the .co.uk, if not then you are right about just typing the domain in, and I wouldn't worry about Aussies seeing the .co.uk site in their searched if it is a fairly competitive phrase as you have already basically told google you are a UK site

[joert]

it really depends on how much work you want to put into, say you are going down the 'free bets' line. What you could do is have that site all set up and optimized and then write about bookies latest betting offers on the blog deep linking then to each relevant free bet page. If you are doing it for pure seo purposes then i wouldn't bother placing affiliate links on there as you'll just reduce the link juice going back to your money site

that sounds like a good idea. I suppose I could write about the emails that we get sent from the different bookmakers couldn't we, where they talk about new offers they have out each week. Have you seen any sites using this method recently for any type of affiliate program? (gambling/non gambling).

Also, do you lose link juice if you do no follow links?

Thanks again mate.

[thebookiesoffers]

that sounds like a good idea. I suppose I could write about the emails that we get sent from the different bookmakers couldn't we, where they talk about new offers they have out each week. Have you seen any sites using this method recently for any type of affiliate program? (gambling/non gambling).

Also, do you lose link juice if you do no follow links?

Thanks again mate.

despite what some people will tell you im affraid if you no follow a link, you don't "save" that link juice, it just evaporates into cyber space

loads of sites use that technique mate, just remember to write naturally and really mix up you link anchors