How Not to Get a New Affiliate to sign up

[gil.langelaan]

I got used to familiarity in emails. You want to call me bud? Fine, just give me my money. However, I only talk to those types that actually care to make some research before writing.

[Former Member 14]

However, I only talk to those types that actually care to make some research before writing.

That's the nail on the head!

I wouldn't mind so much about the familiarity, if I was contacted by AM's who'd done their research. Unfortunately most, if not all of these random contacts, are just that, random, with generic emails to boot. Ahhhh, no thanks!

[ocreditor]

I got used to familiarity in emails. You want to call me bud? Fine, just give me my money. However, I only talk to those types that actually care to make some research before writing.

I like it, you can call me bud but only if you pay lol

But seriously, if someone you never heard of before stars the email with "Bud" and even worst also sending you this email from his gmail account.. what can I say it's not serious

[JamieG1981]

We had two meetings that didn't go ahead at the LAC, both time because the affiliate manager didn't turn up that day. Both meetings where requested by them not us.

Two weeks later and we have still not even had a email apologising for not turning up. In this industry someone sending me an email saying 'hey bud' is the least of my worries to be honest.

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Following on from the above, had an email from one of the affiliate managers who didn't show up, the email asking.....

'How was your LAC, can we do a deal now'

No sorry, not reason why they didn't turn up. Amazes me that they think we would work with them after that.

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[affy]

..When I'm constantly waiting around for someone to show up that wont show it means I can't talk to people walking by. It is so disrespectful and I will be honest, if an affiliate does that to me I will not bother with them in the future. I've had a handful come back to me later asking me for a better deal than the standard, which I could give them, but refused based on the fact that they fkd me around at a conference. You can make more money, but you can never get time back...

And some people really bother about the; "Hey bud" approach?!

[Topboss]

And some people really bother about the; "Hey bud" approach?!

Yes, Some people like me do bother about the " Hey Bud " approach.

It is called Simple Business etiquette!!

[affy]

Yes, Some people like me do bother about the " Hey Bud " approach.

It is called Simple Business etiquette!!

I did understand that part

But refusing to pay a performing business partner more because of personal irritation is ok?

[Topboss]

But refusing to pay a performing business partner more because of personal irritation is ok?

No, I agree there. That is definitely NOT ok..but who does that? I might have missed one or 2 previous posts...

[Top Domains]

Yes, Some people like me do bother about the " Hey Bud " approach.

It is called Simple Business etiquette!!

Okay, I'm doing a flip-flop. The "hey bud" approach is definitely bad. But for me personally it wouldn't be an immediate deal breaker. I hope you liked that rendition of "Let It Go," though. I'd say it's really quite good.

[Martyn]

This thread makes me reconsider my "Hey sausage fingers" approach.

[Topboss]

Okay, I'm doing a flip-flop. The "hey bud" approach is definitely bad. But for me personally it wouldn't be an immediate deal breaker. I hope you liked that rendition of "Let It Go," though. I'd say it's really quite good.

I never said it was a deal breaker, but merely made a comment about not liking it, nor the fact that he didn't bother to check my site to see his brand was already there.

Really not losing sleep over it so nothing to "Let Go" - I just simply made a comment about personally not liking an introduction like that.

[Renee]

I did understand that part

But refusing to pay a performing business partner more because of personal irritation is ok?

Who said anything about not paying?!
I said I'm not likely to increase on a standard revenue deal if you waste my time. Don't mix my words.

[affy]

Who said anything about not paying?!
I said I'm not likely to increase on a standard revenue deal if you waste my time. Don't mix my words.

Wow, who is mixing words here?!?!?

"But refusing to pay a performing business partner more because of personal irritation is ok?"

Which part did you not understand Renee, see the correlation between "refusing to pay" and the word "MORE"?

In case you still don't see it here are your own words to refresh your memory:"I've had a handful come back to me later asking me for a better deal than the standard, which I could give them, but refused based on the fact that they fkd me around at a conference."

So I'm not mixing up anything here...

You simply stated you refuse to give a better deal because you are "but hurt" about an affiliate not showing up. You even wrote you "could have given them".

I think that is absolutely unprofessional, unethical and can/should never be justified.

[Former Member 14]

You simply stated you refuse to give a better deal because you are "but hurt" about an affiliate not showing up. You even wrote you "could have given them".

I think that is absolutely unprofessional, unethical and can/should never be justified.

Renee can speak for herself, and I'm sure she will.

But adding my 2 cents.

Lets transpose this to: not showing up for a job interview, worse, no contact to say 'I can't make it'.

This would spell disaster for a candidate. This person may have far superior qualifications than anyone else going for said job.

But... and here's the rub... Unless there was a valid reason why they couldn't make that appointment, or at least phone (in Renee's case, email), then it's both disrespectful, and as you've accused Renee of being - "absolutely unprofessional".

To be clear, the beef was about affiliates making appointments to speak with Renee at conferences, but then blowing her off, and not showing-up, for the appointment they (affiliate) had personal arranged, and agreed to themselves.

[JamieG1981]

Think the whole thread has gone a bit of track, started off with the 'Hey Bud' then moved onto (including me) commenting about affiliate managers not turning up to meetings.

Reene is simply pointing out correctly that it works both ways with with affiliates not turning up to meetings too.

Think it all boils down to professionalism on both parts, from my point of view we will always give Bet365 the best positions on our site. Not just for their program but the way our affiliate manager deals with us has always been a class above the rest we have dealt with.

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[universal4]

Actually although most of the discussion surround email approach in the beginning, managers not showing up for meetings fits within the framework of the theme "how-not-get-new-affiliate-sign-up".

Renee pointing out that affiliate managers also have to put up with affiliates not showing up for scheduled meetings, would certainly qualify for "how-not-to-get-increased-affiliate-program-commission-rates".

Rick
Universal4

[Top Domains]

I never said it was a deal breaker, but merely made a comment about not liking it, nor the fact that he didn't bother to check my site to see his brand was already there.

Really not losing sleep over it so nothing to "Let Go" - I just simply made a comment about personally not liking an introduction like that.

Yes, a very unhappy comment, for which you wanted to start a whole discussion thread called "How Not to Get a New Affiliate to sign up," which any normal person would infer to signify, "deal breaker." However, I never said that you said it was a deal breaker, and I don't like any of it either.

My original comment was (obviously) delivered in good humor, which apparently was lost on you. And you still haven't said anything about the nice music video.

I wasn't going to reply, but seeing how this thread has turned has changed my mind.

<sticks tongue out />

[Top Domains]

Now I will just say that when I saw in email subscription how this thread turned re "affy" toward Renee I was absolutely appalled. Unreal.

[Renee]

Now I will just say that when I saw in email subscription how this thread turned re "affy" toward Renee I was absolutely appalled. Unreal.

I've had worse said to me tbh
The day I contribute to a thread and don't **** someone off will be the day I probably need to reconsider whether people still care about what I have to say

Not much point arguing as words still being put in my mouth. I think everyone else here understood what I was saying.

[Topboss]

And you still haven't said anything about the nice music video.

LOL,Yes, I did like the video

In closing - I don't think it is the best idea in future to mention my personal thoughts as it landed up with poor Renee being dragged into it and me looking like I am a stuck up snob without a sense of humor LOL

So I am now off to my Son's wedding in South Africa so will catch ya'll in 6 weeks time