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    IGaming Partners - Problems. Predatory T&C. No Affiliate Supports.

    Several days ago, i sign-up at iGaming Parthers, and detected several serious problem with this affiliate program.

    1.) First: They promise 50% rev-share for all new affiliates, for first 3 months. But when i sing-up, and send traffic for they brands, i detected that i am on 25% RevShare plan.

    2.) Second: IGaming Partners RevShare plan is fake. They promise RevShare from 25%
    to 50%. http://www.igamingpartners.com/commissions/

    But when you read they T&C (at another page) you may find this:
    https://affiliates.igamingpartners.c...conditions.asp


    CASINO NET REVENUE PER MONTH % OF NET REVENUE
    Net Revenue Revenue share
    $0-5000 25%
    $5001-10000 30%
    $10001-15000 35%
    $15001-20000 40%
    $20001-25000 45%
    $25001+ 50%
    Affiliates commission fees will be a percentage of the ‘Net Revenue’. iGamingPartners pays a commission fee on net revenue generated by the affiliate. An affiliate’s monthly payable balance is automatically reset to 0 Euros at the beginning of each calendar month, thus ensuring that any negative balances are not carried forward.
    Casino net revenue is calculated as Player bets minus player winnings minus player bonuses minus transaction fees and admin fees.
    Transaction fees are the fees the different payment providers charge on the player´s deposits and withdrawals. No transaction fees are deducted from Revenue Share.
    Admin fees are the fees covering the cost of handling the gaming customer. This includes for example finance, risk surveillance and game software licensing. This fee is set to 20%.
    So if your player lost $1000 with "50% RevShare Plan" your real income = ($1000-20% Admin Fee ($200))*0.5 =$400 or
    40% RevShare. I don't understand, why they use such stupid marketing tactic. The one and only results - they made they affiliate angry.

    3.) Third: They don't have supports. I sent message via e-mail, i sent message via internally message system, i contact with casino support (casino support promice me to send my claim to affiliate support), but results - no replay with in several days.

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    Hello Moonlight Cat,

    thank you for bringing this to my attention. After reading a lot of terms in the last 2 weeks and reviewing some websites, I decided to use my Thesis license to open a 2nd website (hopefully in late summer if I have time) for German and (this time) international readers too.

    (At least German) Google loves my (style of writing) content, so........

    The title of the (little information but with high value) website:

    "Casino Affiliate Programs: Living on the edge of the abyss"

    in German:

    "Casino Affiliate Programme: Leben am Rande des Abgrunds"

    The only language programs like that understand is public pressure.

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    Now to IgamingPartners..........

    "Admin fees are the fees covering the cost of handling the gaming customer. This includes for example finance, risk surveillance and game software licensing. This fee is set to 20%."

    This is the gameplay of a thimblerigger.

    20%

    "This includes for example finance, risk surveillance and game software licensing."

    Summarized in a single phrase: They don't want to pay a single cent for a sunny life. The webmaster, feel like an idiot, should pay all!

    Thimbleriggers!

    Leopold

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    Removing 20% admin fee from the gross net win to arrive at a net win figure does NOT lower the percentage.

    I agree that a 20% admin cost is not ideal, but it does NOT change the percentage.

    The commission percentrage is still applied to the netwin.

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    It is up to 50% on net revenue. Most affiliate programs I work with deduct anywhere from 15-40% in admin fees before calculating net revenue. Some affiliate programs, like Affiliate Lounge, doesn't even want to tell how big deductions they make for admin fees.

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    I am only small affiliate, and have only average ~1100-1300/daily search engines visitors from South America. But i think, that we are both - I and Normal affiliate program have a chance to make some money from this visitors.

    If anybody know, good affiliate program, that targeting on South American players, please - let me know and put your sub-affiliate link here. But affiliate program must targeting on South America. This means - that if casino have only Spanish language version - this is not what I'm looking for. Casino must have special payments methods for this market e.t.c.

    For today, i find only Casino Estrella, and they affiliate program iGamingPartners.
    Casino Estrella - i think is good (i sent are little amount of test traffic for it), but people from iGamingPartners - i affraid they are not serious. Today day number 6, then i try to talk with affiliate support.

    Thanks.

    p.s. Sorry for my poor English.

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    "They don't have supports. I sent message via e-mail, i sent message via internally message system, i contact with casino support (casino support promice me to send my claim to affiliate support), but results - no replay with in several days."

    "Today day number 6, then i try to talk with affiliate support."

    The 6th day!

    That arrogant behaviour speaks for itself.

    And the webmaster?

    Blessed are the ignorant?

    Leopold

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    An addition to my last post from today...

    Hello Moonlight Cat,

    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight Cat
    If anybody know, good affiliate program, that targeting on South American players, please - let me know and put your sub-affiliate link here.
    I have no sub-affiliate link, but some time to take a look.

    Perhaps this is a chance to turn your traffic into happyness (for both sides):

    Omni Casino

    http://www.omnicasino.com/za/



    "Omni is indeed localised for the SA market"

    A quote from

    Mr. Elliott Resnick
    Head of Casino Marketing

    elliott@focalclick.com
    Skype: elliott8181
    Msn:elliott8@hotmail.co.uk


    The affiliate program is FocalClick: http://www.focalclick.com/

    FocalClick is a former sponsor ot GPWA.
    You can read the old entries here: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/archive-focal-click.html

    Side-note: I am busy and didn't checked the terms yet, but the 1st general reputation check shows a good signal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung View Post
    An addition to my last post from today...

    Hello Moonlight Cat,


    I have no sub-affiliate link, but some time to take a look.

    Perhaps this is a chance to turn your traffic into happyness (for both sides):

    Omni Casino

    http://www.omnicasino.com/za/



    "Omni is indeed localised for the SA market"
    Thanks Leopold. But South Africa and South America, this is little be different (:
    I have traffic from South Africa too, but very little. Average 1-2 visitors daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight Cat View Post
    Thanks Leopold. But South Africa and South America, this is little be different (:
    I have traffic from South Africa too, but very little. Average 1-2 visitors daily.
    Oh sorry, I misread it. That's the result when don't have time, made an appointment with the optician.

    After I will take again a look for you. Perhaps in the meantime some affiliates with South America traffic will help you. The cake is big enough for all.

    Leopold

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    04 feb 2014 recive this e-mail from iGamingPartners.com
    Here it is:

    Maria iGamingPartners
    To Me
    Feb 4 at 12:29 PM
    Dear {my name here},

    Thank you very much for your email and I regret you had to wait for a response.

    My colleague Valentin will get back to you shortly to answer all your questions.

    Thank you.
    Kind regards,
    Maria
    iGamingPartners

    Email: maria@igmaingpartners.com
    Web: www.igamingpartners.com
    Now still waiting reply from "Valentin". And wrote email to Daniel , Marketing Manager (daniel@igamingpartners.com).Find this e-mail with google. May be he read affiliates letters? First time i see so bad affiliate support team.

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    Hello Moonlight Cat,

    you can take e.g. the casinos from Fortune Affiliates!

    Example?

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    Vegas Palms Casino


    Transferencia Bancaria Local

    Transferencia Bancaria Local is a quick and safe way of loading money into your Vegas Palms Online Casino account. This gives players the chance to enjoy the new player casino promotions.

    Benefits of using Transferencia Bancaria Local

    • Transferencia Bancaria Local is free to use by the public.
    • A fast, secure and safe way to fund your Vegas Palms casino account.
    • Impressive security settings.
    • Available to use by people in Argentine, Uruguay, Peru, Chile, Mexico and Brazil.
    Source: http://www.vegaspalmscasino.com/banking/lobanet/

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    TRANSFERENCIA BANCARIA LOCAL (T.B.L)

    Transferencia Bancaria Local (T.B.L.) is a straight forward Online Bank Transfer in local currencies for the South American market. In collaboration with major banking institutions, Minerva has built a substantial banking network which includes BRAZIL, CHILE, ARGENTINA, MEXICO, PERU AND URUGUAY.
    Read more: http://www.minervadatalimited.com/tr...ria-local.html

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    All other casinos of this brand should have the same possibilities.

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    Fortune Affiliates: http://www.fortuneaffiliates.eu/affiliate/Clients.jsp

    Fortune Affiliates is a Platinum Sponsor of GPWA: https://www.gpwa.org/affiliate-progr...une-affiliates

    Read the Activity Quota (I saw myself a few seconds ago the 1st time)!

    Activity Quota:Yes, If affiliates become either Dormant or Inactive at any time during this Agreement, We reserve the right, in our sole discretion, to either restructure, on an individual basis, the Commission calculation model applicable to your account, including in respect of any Commissions due, or to terminate this Agreement. “Dormant” means, for a period of three months, acquiring no new active players; “Inactive” means, for a period of three months, earning no commission income and/or earning commission levels below a certain threshold.
    Make a individual deal with them before signing-up. Then you have a written agreement outside the general terms. That is completely normal process in the industry and between serious businessmen. It should not be a problem for a "Platinum" sponsor, if you will "donate" them your South American traffic.

    Fortune Affiliates area: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/fortune-affiliates.html

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    I hope, this is a 1st help. My time available today has been used ... have to go.

    Leopold

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    An addition to my last post from today...

    My wife is taking her midday nap ...

    So, here is another one:

    "Afiliapub is an affiliate network specialized in the online gaming industry (sportsbook, poker, casino) focused on the South American continent."

    SRL AFILIAPUB
    Condo Villa Linda 1 Calle Roble, Escazu,
    Coata Rica
    Ref : 3-102-634611

    ===> http://www.afiliapub.com

    Check it out!

    Leopold

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    Hello Leopold. Thanks. I know this network. But they pay only CPA. But always thanks for your help.

    With best regards
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    Hi,


    Yesterday I went missing on 50% of the deposits of the players.


    No talk of gains or losses.


    System under 50% and reduced deposits around the 50% rev share.


    This is a problem of the platform?.


    Someone else has this problem?


    Best Regards.
    Top 1 in google Spain, Latin America and Central America Keywoard: opciones binarias
    https://www.opcionesbinarias.site/
    Mail: forexonlineproductionltd@gmail.com
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    EXAMPLE.


    Player 1 100 euros deposit.
    Player 2 deposit 1000 euros
    Player 3 500 euros deposit.


    Result now:


    Player 1 deposit 50 euros
    Player 2 deposit 500 euros
    Player 3 deposit 250 euros
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    The same. Lost 80% of my deposits.

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    Timely technical problem?


    New players Achieved yesterday (today the statistics show) does not show user name or country (all in white)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight Cat View Post
    If anybody know, good affiliate program, that targeting on South American players, please - let me know
    Affiliate program offering CPA/Lifetime Rev Share deals
    Hi, we have 5 high converting online casinos that accepts all markets and provides quick payments. We are in search of affiliates to be part of our growing program. Hit me up on skype if you are the one we're looking for!



    Andrea Miller
    Account Manager | Firebrandaffiliates.com


    email @: andrea.miller@firebrandaffiliates.com
    Skype: andrea__miller

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrea_miller View Post
    Affiliate program offering CPA/Lifetime Rev Share deals
    Hi, we have 5 high converting online casinos that accepts all markets and provides quick payments. We are in search of affiliates to be part of our growing program. Hit me up on skype if you are the one we're looking for!
    Andrea - with all my respect. "Accepts markets" and "Targeting on Markets" -this is big difference. Sorry for my English.

    1.) First off all - you don't have Spanish language on you casinos.
    2.) Second - you don't have special payments methods for LATAM Players.
    You don't accept 1.) DineroMail 2.) Mozca -3.) Pagos en efectivo -4.) ToditoCash 5.) 7-Eleven e.t.c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrea_miller View Post
    Hit me up on skype if you are the one we're looking for!
    Slogans as at the funfair.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight Cat
    1.) First off all - you don't have Spanish language on you casinos.
    2.) Second - you don't have special payments methods for LATAM Players.
    You don't accept 1.) DineroMail 2.) Mozca -3.) Pagos en efectivo -4.) ToditoCash 5.) 7-Eleven e.t.c.
    Miss Miller,

    if you are looking for a guy who is well informed about this special target group, then your search is over, because Moonlight Cat is the No. 1 here in this forum!
    Next ride backwards!

    Leopold

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