Looking to hire SEO expert

[Gamb]

I would like to hire someone who is really good at SEO.

Please PM me if you are interested to work for me.

[davemerry]

I don't do any freelance any more, but just a quick word to say be careful Gamb. It's one of the easiest industries to be scammed in, do ample research into anyone you hire beforehand and enquire about their tactics.

Cheers!

[lots0]

I'm with Dave.

The people that are good at SEO, do it for their own sites.

IMO, most all freelance SEO's are incompetent and I have seen them destroy sites more often than they help.

So beware...

[thebookiesoffers]

couldn't agree more with the above comments

Personally I'd also put the search back for a month till this knew update settles down and the real proper SEO's have a full grasp of it. So many cowboys making stupid promises so far after this update

[bboyspyder]

I agree with waiting a bit more before things settle down.

What you can do meanwhile is get involved in some link exchange, post to gambling directories, post in general directories, build Facebook Page, Google Plus Page, make a Twitter account (have Social Media presence basically).

All of this is a good foundation for further more aggressive type of backlinks that hopefully result in higher SERP climbs.

[Ryanloop]

Joining the comments, I think the same that all, beware of who hire, because eventually you may lose your money and your website be seriously affected by the "techniques" of a freelancer ...

Check the forum, there are several topics about SEO and so you can give an idea of ​​what you seek ...

Regards

[Azzopardi]

Are you guys talking from experience or what you read/heard from someone else?

Good SEOs do both, they offer services and work on their own website, it's a good way to bootstrap their investments, diminish market fluctuations and have more than one income streams.

It all depends on the person you hire, ask them to show you the results they achieved on other websites and ask them for estimated time it takes to rank for certain keywords. If they can't show you results and they can't give you an estimate, they don't know what they're doing.

[lots0]

Are you guys talking from experience or what you read/heard from someone else?...

I have acquired my very low opinion of free lance SEO's from over a decade of experience.

I am sure there is an idiot savant SEO, hiding somewhere in the world, that does not realize how much more money they can make working on their own sites... But I haven't found him/her yet... lol

[bboyspyder]

I have ordered some services from the well known IM forum WarriorForum and all I can say that if you look at the reviews good and really understand what kind of backlink service they offer you will be satisfied with the results.

[ddm]

funny how many the replies assume the OP is only interested in "backlink services" and such. Pretty much shudder at the reply suggesting using "link services" on forums like WF.

Let's not forget folks that SEO comprises of many factors, including technical, on-site and off-site factors, not just buying links.

@OP - what are your goals? - do you know what a reasonable budget is to attain your goal(s), timeframes? More details would be helpful.

[bboyspyder]

It is first thing that pops up in head when hiring somebody to do SEO. Normally webmaster do onpage SEO themselves because that includes content, design, layout and etc. and I believe that this is something that should be done by the webmaster himself.

It is great though to outsource Offpage SEO, because it may be more time consuming for a newbie to achieve the results that he wants.

[F-L-C]

It is first thing that pops up in head when hiring somebody to do SEO. Normally webmaster do onpage SEO themselves because that includes content, design, layout and etc. and I believe that this is something that should be done by the webmaster himself.

It is great though to outsource Offpage SEO, because it may be more time consuming for a newbie to achieve the results that he wants.

IMO, Offpage SEO is the most risky to outsource

[ddm]

Normally webmaster do onpage SEO themselves because that includes content, design, layout and etc. and I believe that this is something that should be done by the webmaster himself.

this is the classic example of why webmasters generally get nowhere, and why most affiliates are a waste of time for merchants - the webmasters' inherent belief that they "know what they are doing" - often fortified by other ignorant webmasters, or weak advice / info / anecdotes read on forums (sad, in this world of science, proofs and probability).

FWIW On-site SEO is concerned with more than "content", and has nothing to do with layout and design [although they do have impact on Conversion rates]... Think microformats, open graph, meta data, semantic markup, redirects, canonicalization, accessibility, all this stuff - ALL on-site SEO..

If you're hiring a proper SEO - let him / her do their job and don't assume that you are the expert... Maybe actually consider hiring a professional who has worked in the industry and makes their living from SEO, rather than a lowly link-seller...

Webmasters generally don't know about the finer points [and often the fundemantals] of on-page SEO (of course there are many wonderful exceptions!)
- and assume that they "only need links" 'cos they have everything else "in order".. little do they know....

It sadly sounds like the definition of a SEO to many of the affiliates' responses on here is that of a "link provider" - which is may only be a fraction of what a SEO spends their time doing..

[Gamb]

funny how many the replies assume the OP is only interested in "backlink services" and such. Pretty much shudder at the reply suggesting using "link services" on forums like WF.

Let's not forget folks that SEO comprises of many factors, including technical, on-site and off-site factors, not just buying links.

@OP - what are your goals? - do you know what a reasonable budget is to attain your goal(s), timeframes? More details would be helpful.

Our budget is approx of 10k euros for next 3 months.
After speaking to few persons we have decided just to buy high PR links.

[lots0]

Our budget is approx of 10k euros for next 3 months.
After speaking to few persons we have decided just to buy high PR links.

IMO, a much better choice than hiring an seo.

But IMO still not the best choice. Buying links carries risk... If your buying links just for ranking and not using "no_follow/index"... A lot of risk. Most of it risk the site owner has no control over.

Google has been going way out of their way to make paid SEO a thing of the past. In 5 years Paid SEO for mid/small sized sites will be dead and google will be the killer, mark my words.

FYI - I started work as a paid SEO in 1996... I stopped taking clients in 2000 and started focusing on making me money...

I was also an expert witness as a professional SEO in the SearchKing vs. Google federal law suit.

There is also an interview of me that Aaron Wall (SEO Book) did way back in 2005, somewhere (just search google for my handle).

So, as you see, I do know a little something about professional SEO.

I also know that any SEO that is any good at all is going to charge more than a small or mid sized site can afford... 10k wouldn't even cover the cost of top quality professional SEO research, let alone a quality SEO campaign.

Don't let some unknown so called "SEO" sell you snake oil... cus all it will do in the long run is make you sick...

[universal4]

Interesting thread this one.....

Some damn good points being made and I am starting to wonder if this one is in the running for the list of required reading for the link sellers and seo wannabe's....

Bytheway Lots0, got my checkbook in hand and I'ma wanting some oil.... LOL

Rick
Universal4

[ddm]

After speaking to few persons we have decided just to buy high PR links.

So you went from "looking for a SEO expert" to "speaking to a few persons" (what happened to hiring the experts, huh?) - then deciding to buy "high PR" links. Pretty much epic fail. This is not SEO. good luck.

[xecutable]

Unless someone that has used one recommends it, I'd do what you said you will. Brands that had bigger budgets than yours, got burned several times from 'seo experts' with steep charges that lurk around here and other forums. (I know this directly from the source).

@gamblingseo Why is it an epic fail? What more would you do? This way at least he knows what he gets, as opposed to the 'secret quality work' seos will do: get a few tweets, facebook links, few optimizations based on free info from seomoz and .... bingo ..... 10k well spent right....

To be honest your attempt for a drama over the CAP forums seem more of a fail than this.

[ddm]

@gamblingseo Why is it an epic fail? What more would you do?

Since you asked...

I wouldn't buy even 1 link. I'll come to this below.

- firstly I would start by finding out what the customers goals are, and whether they are realistic, how long it would take to realise these goals (assuming they can be met, on budget), how much work is involved [time frames/cost/scalability], whether it can be achieved in a manner that is cost-effective, within clients' budget. I would also need to look at the clients' own internal data and understand their business model, kpi's and performance metrics (internal data = gold as it is super accurate).

Then I would start by auditing the site technically, then on-site [making sure our "car" is as SEO friendly / 'aerodynamic' as it can be - with current available technologies], then offsite to see what the "lie of the land is".. and make any required on-site changes [new technolgies should be leveraged - I assume everyone who reads this has all the operngraph,microformats,rich-snippets, star ratings and stuff implemented on their sites - right?.] before embarking on *any* linkbuilding campaign. (no point pouring water broken vessel..)

Before we go on a spree "spending 10k a month on links"... I would take the time to research the most cost effective way to achieve the goals (usually the goal is making money, but sometimes whoever hires the SEO thinks the goal is to rank #1 on google for "casino") .. then there's projections and Excel fun, and research, and bulk link buys and yada yada..

The crux of my argument here is that you cannot justifiably say that you gave SEO 'advice' or 'consultancy' to someone when if you simply " buy links" or (lol) "buy high PR links" without having the complete picture - and you won't have it unless you dig deep into a LOT of data which will allow you to make rational, informed decisions and choices on what will bring your customer the MOST ROI (after all, if they want to rank for X and ranking for K and P are more profitable, and you discover this, and it's CHEAPER- isn't that what SEO is about? )

As for actually buying links, this is NOT a good idea, even thought we're in iGaming, one of the spammiest industries in marketing. From the SEOs perspective, you don't want to be involved when your clients site tanks after the inevitable goog "tarantula update" because they trip a filter for link velocity or something else.. 30k is a lot of cheddar.. how much when you potentially get sued for giving them bad advice? ( many SEO consultants have insurance to cover this!)

I would suggest investing in "LINK DEVELOPMENT" initiatives which will DEVELOP links in an organic way These links won't expire, won't be over-optimized, will be on a huge variety of sites and sources, and will boost your site's authority (and yes,, Pagerank) - and its propensity to rank for more stuff, and have more pages cached in google's index..... Ideas include creating a product of value and developing widgets which others can use on their own sites (e.g a poker freerolls widget, soccer scores widget). Some coder time and creativity will certainly yield the links that MONEY JUST CANNOT BUY.

Anyway, back to work for me. I'm off to buy some High PR links. [just kidding =) ]

I'm happy to dispel the myth that gambling SEO is all about buying links. that's just lazy. lazy doesn't pay the bills!

To be honest your attempt for a drama over the CAP forums seem more of a fail than this.

sorry if you didn't like my reaction to blatent content theft. Even the guys @ CAP were gracious enough to acknowledge it - I find it strange that you mention it here.. The original guy who put those thoughts together didn't like it either. Another SEO i know also commented that he actually billed a car company for doing the same to one of his articles - and they paid! .. since you mentioned it.. =)

[beejack12]

what salary you offer to work on your seo project