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    So Obama has just been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8298580.stm

    Am I wrong in thinking that after only 10 months in power this might be a little premature? is the world so glad to be rid of Bush that we need to glorifyany successor who isn't blood thirty?

    Not saying that he might not eventually earn the prize, but I think the voting committee have some serious explaining to do for their choice. Can you award peace prizes for what your 'likely' to do in the future? surely it should be for what you've managed to achieve as world leader so far?
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    There is a discussion about this in the private area, so I am going to post the same thing I posted there: sorry to those who read it twice:


    Usually the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to individuals who have a lifetime of work behind them. The only thing I can think of is they feel Obama has an opportunity as President of the United States, to effect global change and promote peace. But that has yet to be determined. They should be judging by actions not words or potential of action.

    Either way it is an honor and only time will tell if it is deserved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by APCW Anthony View Post
    The only thing I can think of is they feel Obama has an opportunity as President of the United States, to effect global change and promote peace.

    Either way it is an honor and only time will tell if it is deserved.
    I agree, I believe they are taking that in consideration hopping it will help to promote”peace" (limited to what, us, human beings as society can achieve).
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    I would answer no.

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    I was totally stunned when I heard this?

    I am glad Obama is president, and hopeful for the future, and hope he does not disappoint. But the Nobel Peace Prize???

    For what? I just do not understand at all.
    When Al Gore won the prize i was thrilled, it was well deserved and was very happy for the man and his mission to save this planet. But i don't understand what Obama has done to be awarded this type of recognition? At least not yet he has not achieved anything great enough to be honored with this, so i do not know what they were thinking, and i believe there are many others in this world who would of been more deserving of this honor.

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    What about the man who is a millionaire, and has dedicated his entire life to build areas in Africa where the people can have fresh water? Is that not something selfless, honorable and worth recognition? He is using his own millions to help everyone in africa that he can build fresh water ways and this in return is wiping out some unnecessary dieseases and deaths.

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    I think many of the sentiments of the prize being awarded aspirationally are shared by Obama himself. Here is a statement from him that I received today as part of an email list I'm on:

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    This morning, Michelle and I awoke to some surprising and humbling news. At 6 a.m., we received word that I'd been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009.

    To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.

    But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.

    That is why I've said that I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations and all peoples to confront the common challenges of the 21st century. These challenges won't all be met during my presidency, or even my lifetime. But I know these challenges can be met so long as it's recognized that they will not be met by one person or one nation alone.

    This award -- and the call to action that comes with it -- does not belong simply to me or my administration; it belongs to all people around the world who have fought for justice and for peace. And most of all, it belongs to you, the men and women of America, who have dared to hope and have worked so hard to make our world a little better.

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    Can anyone come up with anyone else that won it on the basis of "it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes."

    Come on, we all know politicians lie, so the Nobel prize has been awarded on his own say so really, on what he says he will do! Not on what he has or will do!

    This for me makes the nobel prize worthless now.

    I am sure that he will not be deserving of it by the time he comes out of office!
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    I agree that this does tarnish the thought and spirit of the award slightly...

    I also would like someone out there to clarify the statement
    "it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes."
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    All they have done IMO is devalue the Nobel Peace prize significantly.
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    who cares? our thoughts doesn't change anything in politics. we should spend our time on talking/thinking about politics..
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    It's like giving someone a "Best Gambling Portal" award when they've just finished their first template. Maybe in a few years and after a lot of hard work.

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    But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.
    At least he somewhat questions his own acceptance and recognizes the true intend of the prize. I think the award sounds more like a "call for hope" than anything else.

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    who cares? our thoughts doesn't change anything in politics. we should spend our time on talking/thinking about politics..
    That is a sensationally ignorant post.

    This prize is about PEACE. Not politics.

    However, awarding it to Obama is totally stupid. In my opinion, he was the best choice President for us outside of the US, but to award him for something he may achieve is just silly. I suppose you could say the award is political? If so, what is the political motive?

    Anyone else know who the other contenders were?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stgeorge View Post
    That is a sensationally ignorant post.

    This prize is about PEACE. Not politics.

    However, awarding it to Obama is totally stupid. In my opinion, he was the best choice President for us outside of the US, but to award him for something he may achieve is just silly. I suppose you could say the award is political? If so, what is the political motive?

    Anyone else know who the other contenders were?
    I have to agree.. for me it sounds politic as well..

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    I too am absolutely astounded by the news that Obama has been honoured with the Nobel Peace Prize....
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    I wish that he had not been awarded the prize in order to avoid another Obama bash or a chance to show him in a negative light due to no fault of his own.

    It's obvious from his statement that he was just as shocked as everyone else to be awarded such a prize, but I guess that is irrelivant to some. Hopefully the next person will definatly be more deserving than Obama and all with be right with the world again for those that are upset over this.

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    Well, there is quite a large gap between when the recipient is decided and when it is announced.

    Back then most of the planet was awash with a giddy-glow so it's not that surprising that 5 Norwegians would be affected by that.

    I think it's not a bad thing to give an award like this early (although maybe not this early) as an encouragement - why wait until the guys is retired and out of the game to give him the award, give it at a time when he has influence and it can actually contribute to the overall aims.

    And anyone who says that giving Obama the prize means it is cheapened or diminished in any way needs to take a pill and go read some books about Henry Kissinger!
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    I am sure that if President Obama goes on doing what he believes will save all nations by waging war on evil dictators, then I would think that somewhere down the line he would have earned this honor.

    I also heard on the news that the nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize was closed 11 days prior to his election.

    It is really premature to give this honor, but if it gives him the momentum to push forward and to make this a safer world for all............then so be it.

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    His PA really put a great letter together at short notice, didn't they?!?

    I agree that the Nobel Peace Prize should be awarded for contributions already achieved and not what might happen!

    FW De Klerk and Nelson Mandela put into action what they wanted to achieve and achieved their goal in making a path towards peace and a non apartheid SA by putting their actions in motion and achieving unity over a very long time period, the country is not perfect but is in a much better way than it ever was!

    Is there anybody out there currently that can say they have achieved this in 2009? not too many I can think of! Bono, big headed self centred t**t!

    There are thousands of unknown people out there that have truly dedicated there lives to improving those of others at their own cost, they are the people that should be awarded for their work and self sacrifice.
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    pfft, Obama hasn't done anything yet but increase the number of troops abroad. Its all political, too bad.

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