Off Page SEO Question

[edgarf76]

I was thinking of the different ways that I can use self referential links for on page optimization after I post the thread yesterday. There seems to be infinite ways to do so. However I was doing a social posting for one of my sites and I had a thought.

The thought was using the social bookmark as an internal link for my site but the social networking site would be pointing right back to my site. For instance I posted my MLB blog post on twitter.com/every1bets/status/376030359462236161

I am just using twitter as an example, I know that the links are no-follow. However what if I put that link in my next blog post, it is an outbound link but the link is pointing right back at my site.

Has anyone used this method or have any feedback?

[seocontentonl]

i dont think this will help you in a healthy way.. it is a such a waste of time.

[edgarf76]

i dont think this will help you in a healthy way.. it is a such a waste of time.

Can you elaborate? Is this a grey hat technique? Blackhat?

Not helping my site and a waste of time is an ambiguous answer.

[Scampi]

I may not be understanding you correctly, but wouldn't that be the same as me linking to you, and you linking back to me? Or am I missing something?

[edgarf76]

yes, exactly but with social networking. Is that a technique that can help or hurt a site? Or is it just not a good technique at all?

[universal4]

While the seo person goes and searches the net looking for an answer, let me ask you to clarify.

Do you want to create this outgoing link for the visitor or the search engines?

I am a firm believer in outgoing links helping you to rank, but only if they link to good valid information that is good for the visitor covering topics of the page the link sits on.

In my opinion, this should not matter what medium you are linking to, as long as it is good for the visitor. The same holds true for the link back.

Rick
Universal4

[Scampi]

If you think it sounds underhand, then you can assume Google will think the same way. As the links from Twitter are nofollow, then I would guess that you linking back to them will have no ranking effect at all, but I may be wrong. I'm guessing it will either have no effect or a negative effect.

Here's an interesting little article I found: http://doncrowther.com/twitter/twitter-nofollow-myth
I find Twitter boring, maybe I'm getting old

[edgarf76]

Do you want to create this outgoing link for the visitor or the search engines?

In this case the search engines, I am trying to think out of the box to increase my serps.



If you think it sounds underhand, then you can assume Google will think the same way. As the links from Twitter are nofollow, then I would guess that you linking back to them will have no ranking effect at all, but I may be wrong. I'm guessing it will either have no effect or a negative effect.

I think it is in the grey area, not underhanded because if it is a good article it is creating value. If I link it back to my site, perhaps I can get a positive effect or not (that's why I asked before I did anything)

I know that twitter is no follow but I have heard that google still has a way of knowing about them or indexing them. I do not remember where I read this, I could be wrong.

Thank You for the article, I am going to give it a read now. If you think twitter is boring check out pintrest, it is better IMO

Good Artice! I subscribed to the newsletter, thanks for the tip!

[slotplayer]

I read it a bunch of time but its confusing to me, but its pretty humid here tonight.

I understand a referential link to be nothing more than a named anchor. I should say in one example.

[universal4]

So your saying heat and humidity makes people confused.....

That explains it.....see Anthony I tried to tell you I had a medical condition....

/end derail

Does that also mean that more of us will understand Google in the winter time?

Rick
Universal4

[edgarf76]

I asked a question about self referential links about a week ago. My understanding was that it was not about where the link is placed but if it is directed directly to the home page rather than a page on your site in the past that was linked to the home page.

For instance lets say I wrote an article a year ago about the best gambling webmaster forums to find affiliate programs on. In that post I put a link there directed back to my home page.

Then today I write an article and I link it to the best gambling webmaster forums to find affiliate programs on which was linked directly to my home page.

Am I wrong?

[onlinebest]

for my opinion its good for the short term only

[Vipra]

This isn't something new but has been used by many of us in our promotional projects. This technique will help your site to grow with social signals and which will help your site to rank better. But it demands handwork and patience.