Results 1 to 11 of 11
  1. #1
    Mas
    Mas is offline New Member
    Join Date
    January 2014
    Posts
    3
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Practice vs. Real

    Sorry if this is the wrong section, or even wrong forum for this question but I was wondering if it was normal for practice games to play massively different than when playing for real?

    I won't name the online casino, but I wanted to test how their roulette played by playing the same numbers. In the practice games it was really successful, I did this multiple times for different durations, and it was the same all the time.

    When it came to the real thing it was completely different, not a case of a bad run, something else going on. I'm not sure if the practice game is fixed to suck you in (I suspect so), so my question's is this a normal and/or an acceptable practice?

    I don't care about losing a little bit of money, I care more about being duped. I signed out afterwards, cleared my browser data etc. and the game went back to playing in the generous way it does when your not playing for real money.

    P.S. it's a big name casino btw

  2. #2
    EdBet is offline New Member
    Join Date
    April 2013
    Posts
    6
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Default

    Normal
    No matter if you play (for fun) in roulette, slots ... you always win

  3. #3
    Scampi's Avatar
    Scampi is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    August 2013
    Posts
    855
    Thanks
    371
    Thanked 304 Times in 180 Posts

    Default

    I don't think it is normal, but I know some of them do. If they do not play the same, then you are been duped. Some state that they play differently in demo mode, but not all of them do. Of course you might win in demo mode, then lose in real mode even if they are on the same settings, you are also likely to bet differently whilst playing in demo mode as the fear of losing isn't there.
    If they are misleading you like this, I wouldn't trust them with real money. If you are not sure, email the casino or use their live chat to check.

    What big name casino was it?

  4. #4
    Mas
    Mas is offline New Member
    Join Date
    January 2014
    Posts
    3
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Sky Vegas. I made a little video, could only record 3 minutes on my tablet but I managed to win 27 in that short amount of time

    link removed

    I'll contact them, as I can't see anywhere that says the demo/real mode plays differently.
    Last edited by Mas; 4 January 2014 at 3:35 pm.

  5. #5
    TheGooner's Avatar
    TheGooner is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    March 2007
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    4,339
    Thanks
    1,994
    Thanked 4,308 Times in 2,048 Posts

    Default

    Mas, you have NOT found a secret to easy money.


    As most games can be set at the backend with a payout percentage to affect gameplay I would not be surprised if the demo mode games were set at 100% payout (or close to returning money) to result in the game seeming to be easy money.

    When you play casino games for REAL MONEY you should not expect such generosity, and the longer you play the more likely it is that you will be down overall. The laws of probability, particularly around large numbers (playing many games) are quite fixed and it usually doesn't end well for the average casino / games punter.

  6. #6
    Scampi's Avatar
    Scampi is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    August 2013
    Posts
    855
    Thanks
    371
    Thanked 304 Times in 180 Posts

    Default

    As far as I am aware, Sky Vegas games play the same in demo as they do in real mode.
    Most are on around 95%, so you get a good game for your money anyway. You could always email them to ask.

  7. #7
    LukeC is offline Non-sponsor Affiliate Program
    Join Date
    October 2012
    Location
    Birmingham, UK
    Posts
    495
    Thanks
    49
    Thanked 122 Times in 49 Posts

    Default

    You have to offer demo games with the same RTP as real money games if they are being used to advertise the real money version for legal reasons. I'd be shocked if a legitimate operator was doing otherwise.

  8. #8
    Mas
    Mas is offline New Member
    Join Date
    January 2014
    Posts
    3
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    I did email them, they said they do play the same in demo/real mode. How would I prove otherwise, statistically speaking I mean, say make 100 bets in a row? I was thinking of making 0.01p bets, then at least I'd only lose a few quid proving my point... but would there be any point?

  9. #9
    chaumi is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    October 2013
    Location
    East Midlands
    Posts
    1,246
    Thanks
    380
    Thanked 633 Times in 464 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gambling Joe View Post
    ..... you are also likely to bet differently whilst playing in demo mode as the fear of losing isn't there.....

    This could be a key pointer, and affects pretty much anybody who ever plays free games. Generally you don't approach with the same mindset, there is no risk, and it's actually very difficult to force yourself to approach it as if there was really some of your own cash at stake. One early big winning bet with free cash could put a whole different perspective on it (a misleading one).

    Having said that, personally would not be surprised to find out there is some skullduggery in it all somewhere.

  10. #10
    TheGooner's Avatar
    TheGooner is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    March 2007
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    4,339
    Thanks
    1,994
    Thanked 4,308 Times in 2,048 Posts

    Default

    You would need 1000's of spins, probably 10 x 1000's of spins before you would have anything statistically significant.

    And even then, with just two samples variation still occurs.

    Think of all the people you know that play lotto - a game that is definately not rigged - and think of the different experiences each play has had just through random variation.

  11. #11
    Puma's Avatar
    Puma is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,518
    Blog Entries
    3
    Thanks
    78
    Thanked 74 Times in 43 Posts

    Default

    I believe the demo slots offered by RTG casinos offer the same payout as they do in real mode.

    Which is why I don't post the demo games on my sites.

    They are literally the worst I've ever seen.

    Maybe 1 win every 10 spins and maybe 1 win over a buck every 20 - 30 or so spins.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •