Profile a high roller

[DanHorvat]

What do high roller online casino players want? Which games do they play and where? What do they want to do with the money? Why are they playing in the first place? Which countries do they live in? Why aren't they playing in a brick and mortar casino? Do they use deposit bonuses at all?

Are they playing because they win sometimes, or because they keep losing? Are they addicts or people who know better?

I would assume they're men, and are playing online because it's safer (e.g. can't get mugged, no one knows you're rich, you don't have to deal with sleazy guys and security), but the rest is blank.

[Scampi]

They are probably people with gambling addictions on the verge of losing their homes and families, but some may just be rich sports stars and the like.

[casinobonusguy]

I can answer some of these questions because my husband is a vip player at a casino for about 12 years and we have been invited on a few trips .From what I have seen there is about 50/50 men /women mix and most are 40+ years old .We actually met 2 of the mega moolah winners and what was surprising is they were not huge players and even with their millions they did not change their spending habits at casinos.
Most of the ones I have spent time with gamble online and at land based casinos and money is relative to how much you have as for some casino players to lose $100 is a big deal but others can drop $100,000 and not even think about it because they have large net worth.

[RacingJim]

From my stats and learnings about these types of people (and really rooting down in to the lives of a couple of people I knew who were doing it), these people:

Very often male, quite a jet set lifestyle travels about often, gambles primarily on laptop or tablet, often the new breed are young, wealthy individuals who have come into money quite quickly e.g. city/finance workers, online entrepeneurs, also footballers definitely included in this or people who have inherited wealth from their family. Playing more for fun due to having so much disposable income, the sort of people who probably do play in a real casino from time to time but, as we all do, finds it more easy and private to do it online.

Most of the high rollers I have found out about are genuine legit wealthy. Spunking £50,000 in an online casino, whilst an annoyance if they lose, is not a major disaster for them. Where do they live? All over the show, they travel a lot, e.g. to Dubai/USA etc. They are international people.

[eenzoo]

No idea from which money we can call it a High roller?
I can told you about a player i refered almost 3 years ago without being active in online gambling industry.
Of course i can only share infos delivered by AFF manager:
A lady from Switzerland, played almost only Immortal Romance, monthly deposits between 2-4k CHF during last 3 yrs like a clockwork.
She is one reason that i turned into this business from an other affiliate marketing battle field

Of course there are other, but a player who deposit €20, hit 2 smaller jackpots with €60k in addition and lose all while playing Live Roulette with a couple of €2000 red/black bets, its not a High roller but an idiot!

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[DanHorvat]

I'd say in online terms we're talking about someone who would deposit 2-10k per month. Someone who's above average and can afford to deposit at least 2-3 monthly salaries.

I guess I'm talking about people who work for money, and aren't business owners or capitalists.

The really big guys don't play online if my limited knowledge of the casino industry is any good. At least I imagine a true high roller as someone who visits a brick and mortar casino and plays on credit.

But it's the online players I'm interested in.

[casinobonusguy]

We have a USA player who loses $30,000 -$60,000 every month and they have for about 4 years now , I can go to bed -$5,000 and wake up + $10,000 just on this one player.

[Miles_FTA]

High Rollers Game choice Men tend to prefer Tables and Roulette Women a bit more slots in my opinion. Yes these guys and Gals may be addicted but they have the Money to Burn and the time to do it .. They play when the can and in most cases it doesn't interfere with there everyday Lives. They have too much Money to spend and want to be entertained so they do it gaming .. what else can the spend it on .. they have the cars they want .. the houses they need they go on all the holidays they want so ... they need to spend it they choose Gambling .. Some choose Drugs and Travel ..Live choice I guess but they have No Pattern they can come spend 50 K in a day for 6 weeks and then disappear for months all of a sudden to reappear and start all over again

@ Dan I have had players who have spent Millions in land based Casinos and still come to Play Online and play Big Huge amounts it can make your stomach turn to know how much some of these guys can play online its no joke .. I think it comes down to be being "anonymous " maybe when you play Online whereas in a Brick and Mortar the minute you walk in you have people all over you maybe they enjoy the privacy ?

[FictionNet]

I remember an affiliate manager telling me (about a million years ago when almost all online casinos were download-only) that for true VIP, mega-bucks players the casino would (at least offer to) visit the member's house and install the software, provide a guide on how to play, etc.

No idea if that really happened or still does.

[casinobonusguy]

Microgaming casinos have given free ipads to their vip players for a couple years with the software loaded .

[gratisbingo]

i use to have a highroller on one of my affiliate accounts , asian dude with deposits about 30 K $ monthly , lose some big $ and win small $.
It was a good year.

I think he use another casino site or just stop playing .
Highrollers are people with endless money , and a big wallet ! love these guys , and women.

[RacingJim]

I remember an affiliate manager telling me (about a million years ago when almost all online casinos were download-only) that for true VIP, mega-bucks players the casino would (at least offer to) visit the member's house and install the software, provide a guide on how to play, etc.

No idea if that really happened or still does.

Ask the question would you do it? For someone who might put in 50k a month? I'd do it.

[DanHorvat]

Interesting profiling, seems like these people are coming from all sorts of backgrounds. You just need two ingredients: lots of money, and a heart that races a bit faster when gambling.

I'd just like to figure out which games do these people play. Probably not slots. Or am I wrong?

[JackTenSuited]

Interesting profiling, seems like these people are coming from all sorts of backgrounds. You just need two ingredients: lots of money, and a heart that races a bit faster when gambling.

I'd just like to figure out which games do these people play. Probably not slots. Or am I wrong?

the few bigger players I've referred have been all slots but I haven't referred enough to make a good enough assumption on it yet

[pokeraussie]

They absolutely do play slots. There are high roller sections in brick and mortar casinos which have slot machines with higher limits.

[allfreechips]

I always wonder why people gamble 3-5K a month, some more some less but just do it each month.

[pokeraussie]

I always wonder why people gamble 3-5K a month, some more some less but just do it each month.

Some people have a budget for gambling every month. They work hard and earn a lot, and playing the slots and other casino games is their way to kick back and relax.

[Sherlock]

Highrollers are people with endless money , and a big wallet !

They are not with endless money. Nobody is with endless money. And the more one bets, the higher is probability that things go out of control. Once they go out of control, then the player busts. The most probable scenario of your highroller is that he destroyed his life and maybe few others.

People who enjoy betting and betting for big money are those who like to risk. Even their lives.

But there is nothing like endless money. Vlastimil Petrzela is a soccer coach, he lost ~ 25 M USD with roulette. They made whole floor in casino just for him in Russia. But even he ran out of money. Took him almost a decade I think.

[rdoroshenko]

Who are they? - I think they are different, from average man who once won big and keep playing to win even more to the multimillionaires who want to try something new just cuz they want and can. I don't think they are after some casino bonuses.

What do they play? - I think mostly it's slot machines as it is something that you first see in casinos (online and land based). But I heard that some "whales" love blackjack as the chance to win is high. As I was told most high rollers play the most popular games. (usually, casinos feature this games as popular, so no problem to find them)

How to get them? - I think the potential high roller will look for online casino in Google as everyone does, he will type something like:
"online casino" - why to waste time typing
"best online casino" - he knows he can deposit a lot and he wants the BEST option
"best online casino {country}" - if he knows there are some issues with casinos in his country, or he wants local support included

[WagerJoint]

I think high rollers are usually one of four groups: (1) have the money e.g. inheritance, high income etc (2) are gambling with other people’s money e.g. stealing from employer, trust fund, municipality, business line of credit etc (3) have psychological problems e.g. narcissism, depression, PTSD, brain damage, serotonin/dopamine deficiency, death in the family etc. (4) laundering money.