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    Hi all

    I have a question about the royalties we pay, for the participation in affiliate programs.

    I was unlucky on the last couple of days and the results of the month was -11000$.
    - Today the casino then charged me -2000$ in "royalties" or "casino promo"..

    These things about the calculation of royalties is pretty advanced, so i dont understand it..

    So the simple question is; If a players win big on the last day of the month, and your whole monthly commission is ruined, do you then also expect to be charged 2000$ in royalites? - Is it not only when players wins you are going to pay these as a default?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportnbetting View Post
    If a players win big on the last day of the month, and your whole monthly commission is ruined, do you then also expect to be charged 2000$ in royalites? - Is it not only when players wins you are going to pay these as a default?
    Unless a program displays all deductions/credits, deposits, withdrawals etc, these bonus comps will always be a contentious issue for affiliates. Given most if not all programs exclude certain stats data, it's practically impossible to know if a player has "lost" these bonus comps back to the casino (did not fulfill wagering) or if they did meet wagering, the player did not withdrawal the comp/s and they were lost back to the casino.

    Lets say a player is given a $100 comp, does not meet wagering. Then the $100 comp is returned to the casino. Though some casino's pay a % in real cash to give a player a comp/bonus. Assuming the player loses this comp back to the casino, then the affiliate should only be hit with a % of that comp fee (if the casino pays a % fee to give that comp in the 1'st place).

    Over and above that, the bonus/comp (if lost back to the casino) should be added to GGR, then deducted from GGR. Basically it should cancels itself out. Neither parties are positive or negative $100.

    In your case where this player is -11,000$, the 2,000$ in comp I'm guessing would be included in that figure.

    Problem is, and repeating, when programs leave out important stats, they can run all sorts of bizarre calculations. For all you know a program could be deducting "comps" from GGR and then deducting the same comp value from the withdrawal figure too.

    If your ever suspicious of a program and their calculations, get a friend to signup, deposit and claim a bonus. But have this person purposely lose. If the program is treating the entire "comp" (bonus) as a real cash loss, then you know your being shaved.

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