Seo

[PlaySmart]

Hi guys,

I am just building my first website and I was wondering if you are promoting your site by yourself or are you using an external SEO company ?

Thank's

[chaumi]

SEO is everything, Playsmart. Every...single....thing you do on your site is related to SEO. in one way or another. Either directly (which is what I think you mean) or arguably indirectly.

So what do you mean? Backlinking? Design and structure? Writing stuff? Determining what to target/write about? etc etc etc

Don't mean to diss the question, and I'd like to think the above will actually help you.

But I will bet that no one currently using any SEO 'service' (as in some firm saying 'we will do SEO on your site' LOL) is likely to say so here, although I'm often wrong!

[Cash Bonus]

chaumi is right when he says seo is everything. I do seo on a regular basis and seo is important because it can help you develop better relationships with your audience, enhance the customer experience, increase your authority, bring more people to your site, give you an advantage over the competition your facing, and increase conversions. That will then bring you first time depositors and more growth for your business. It just takes time.

[Former Member 14]

FYI... SEO is not spamming forums with site links.

[PaulEchere]

Hey,

Answering your question - I personally don't use any SEO services and / or agencies.
Going a bit beyond your question - I personally don't think there is a point in doing so unless you have an actual budget for it. If you work on your website like a side hustle or a hobby, there's probably no point in hiring anyone. In the end of the day, if you do it yourself it's a much better investment - you will not only improve your site's serps, but you will also accumulate knowledge and skills.

[nwalker]

I think there is some merit in using an Seo Agency for the things that you don't like doing or have time for. But quite honestly I'd look for someone to complement the skills you have to help you on an adhoc basis. If you go with an Agency you'll be put through their processes and they will want to do loads of stuff to justify their fees, without actually getting you want you want, which is a site that ranks well for the area you're in.

It's unlikely they have the content/niche knowledge and the keyword research they do will be too broad to really help you.

You have to be clear what you want from an Agency, and how to measure the success of what they are doing for you. At the end of the day you need a return on your investment.

The problem with the Agency route is they don't have anything on the line. They don't have to get the money rolling in to cover their fees and pay your salary and costs - that's down to you. It's also a long term thing as they'll keep telling you, you won't see results in 3 months. Once you're in you're on their hook and it's difficult to break off.

I've used an Agency and have fired an Agency, but it cost me lots of money before i realized there are other more cost effective ways of doing things. Think long and hard.

Just remember, if they were any good they'd be focusing on becoming a super-affiliate and smash the igaming world with killer sites that rank no 1 all over the place. The returns would be far greater than running an agency selling a dream to someone that doesn't know better. The thing is they don't, because they can't.

[wonderpunter]

You will never get the results you want in our industry... unless you have big budgets as you need only the best and even then these agencies can't compete with top level passionate affiliates, pretty much all the top 10 is inhouse SEO... it's the most important skill you can teach yourself..

[universal4]

The problem with the Agency route is they don't have anything on the line. They don't have to get the money rolling in to cover their fees and pay your salary and costs - that's down to you. It's also a long term thing as they'll keep telling you, you won't see results in 3 months. Once you're in you're on their hook and it's difficult to break off.

Great point, and this means if they happen to take steps that have a short term good effect and long term harm, they still get paid, and by the time the harm happens, they will have moved on to another sucker.

Just remember, if they were any good they'd be focusing on becoming a super-affiliate and smash the igaming world with killer sites that rank no 1 all over the place. The returns would be far greater than running an agency selling a dream to someone that doesn't know better. The thing is they don't, because they can't.

This is a very important point, that very few understand for YEARS. This is also denied from every single "agency" out there.

Rick
Universal4

[Valerie Meshko]

Hi, I want to say that in seo it is important to combine methods of promotion. To begin with I would advise you to buy a small number of trusted links on medium sites which have a good level of trust (DR) and gradually increase the number of links. Add crowd links only on good forums. And then more, gradually increasing the number of links and promotion methods. Maybe make a PBN develop site grid for your personal interests