Is SEO even possible? 2

[TheGooner]

You know it well guys. None is gonna give a link to gambling portal out of his good heart or for its viral article.

Hah! I do link out several times a month to stuff I like - on the website, on our blog, on facebook, twitter and google+ ...

So it's not no-one ... but I do notice that many of the review pushing, wordpress based affiliate portals are much like you mention - but they're always going to be a weird subset of the net.

[gillies8888]

Agree with wonder punter. Different signals are improving rankings. The free bets keywords are a no go though

[JessieK]

I'm pretty new to this any I can tell you from what I see, links are king.

[PROFRBcom]

You know it well guys. None is gonna give a link to gambling portal out of his good heart or for its viral article.

I've managed to get links from my competitors by creating high quality content, staying on top of my industry, scooping stories before the big outlets can churn out another article, etc. It takes hard work, but it can be done.

[MrAJ]

Google isn't at a stage where it can detect paid links, how could google detect whether a link has been paid for on a site which is based within a similar niche e.g. how could they tell that someone had bought a link on a football forum to a sports betting site.

If your prediction is correct then surely we will see the likes of freebets.uk dropping off google at any time soon. A quick look at their backlink profile and its easy to see that they have clearly paid for their links to get on sites.

Any update is probably geared towards the use of PBN's, Sape and GSA spam. Where as paid links of relevant blogs unless google goes about contacting them individually to see if they are selling how else would they know?

Don't be so sure.
Rankbrain + quantum computing will allow Google to recognize patterns even us humans can't with extensive manual research. They are not that far away. I don't expect big changes with the new Penguin, but once these updates will roll out automatically with Rankbrain behind it will be very, very easy to spot a huge portion of bought links. Even tools like Link Research Tools can do this today. The last thing I would do in 2016 is buying links from anyone who is usually selling.
Just my thoughts.

[AlexTu]

paid links and grey seo is working... all my competitors buy links and only 10% of them are natural links from forums like this and from other free sources... the thing is that every webmaster has his own limit (budget) for links..
P.S. Agree with MrAJ . We Have To Avoid the managers who try to sell their trash sites (networks). Spammers send me the same trash sites since 2013

[dfiocch]

paid links and grey seo is working... all my competitors buy links and only 10% of them are natural links from forums like this and from other free sources... the thing is that every webmaster has his own limit (budget) for links..
P.S. Agree with MrAJ . We Have To Avoid the managers who try to sell their trash sites (networks). Spammers send me the same trash sites since 2013

It's all about links. And when some SEO gurus talk about "quality" they make me laugh. Just ask Wonderpunter too: all top positions on major keywords on our industry are full of "toptenofthetopten" sites-like with thousands (k) of backlinks coming from comments platforms, paid platforms and interlinked each other. Same/very similar content.

The ones who "quack" about "you can recover without a refresh" or "negative seo doesn't work" etc., etc., etc... have no clue on what an algorithm is. They think it's something "solid" or "liquid" filling the Google's pages...

The last time i tried one of this "guru" I was fairly shocked: he sent me some of his works with proofs... 10 keywords, 10 sites all on top. The problem was that each keyword had a "10 searchers per month" of traffic volume... geek! He was asking for $5k per month. I just said: .|..

And... ahah... I'm tracking a site on G that is always on top: before the first Penguin release it was a ".com". Penguin released, site trashed. After Oct '14... welcome back! But now it's a ".co" (it lost a "m") with exactly the same backlinks with keyword rich anchor text coming from the same places... from Oct '14 till now always on top for many, many keywords it means only one thing: money.

Eh, guys... Quality matters.

I would change the title of this thread: "Is spammmmm even possible? Of course. Delete and redo"

[wonderpunter]

It's all about links. And when some SEO gurus talk about "quality" they make me laugh. Just ask Wonderpunter too: all top positions on major keywords on our industry are full of "toptenofthetopten" sites-like with thousands (k) of backlinks coming from comments platforms, paid platforms and interlinked each other. Same/very similar content.

The ones who "quack" about "you can recover without a refresh" or "negative seo doesn't work" etc., etc., etc... have no clue on what an algorithm is. They think it's something "solid" or "liquid" filling the Google's pages...

The last time i tried one of this "guru" I was fairly shocked: he sent me some of his works with proofs... 10 keywords, 10 sites all on top. The problem was that each keyword had a "10 searchers per month" of traffic volume... geek! He was asking for $5k per month. I just said: .|..

And... ahah... I'm tracking a site on G that is always on top: before the first Penguin release it was a ".com". Penguin released, site trashed. After Oct '14... welcome back! But now it's a ".co" (it lost a "m") with exactly the same backlinks with keyword rich anchor text coming from the same places... from Oct '14 till now always on top for many, many keywords it means only one thing: money.

Eh, guys... Quality matters.

I would change the title of this thread: "Is spammmmm even possible? Of course. Delete and redo"

A real time penguin should make it much more difficult to just renew old content on a new domain with 301'ed backlinks... does the .co site you are tracking have a "2" in it? could be a "3" and a "4" also ha ha

[dfiocch]

A real time penguin should make it much more difficult to just renew old content on a new domain with 301'ed backlinks... does the .co site you are tracking have a "2" in it? could be a "3" and a "4" also ha ha

Hell, yeah!
But also a "r" (just popped out). But, hey... fantasy is fantasy... also new domain names are coming up.

[domainname.com] + "a","b","c"...
[domainname.co] + "a","b","c"...
[shortdomainname.*newextensions*] <=== my favourites... what a pleasure to see a [gamblingrelatedword][dot][tech] or [gamblingrelatedword][dot][work] or [gamblingrelatedword][dot][recipes] staying on top of our trashy, non-quality sites... ahaha

[voetbalwedden]

Keep your focus on great content and make sure you comply with the Google Guidelines. But the most important still is the content.

[Osca]

Yes, it could bring much traffic.

[dfiocch]

Keep your focus on great content and make sure you comply with the Google Guidelines. But the most important still is the content.

Totally agree. Agree from head to feet: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/google-se...ts-227538.html

(*ironic*)