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    Lucky7Casinos has purchased a list of name and address from WagerJunction and is using it SPAM the crap out of me and others.

    I know the list of names that Lucky7Casinos are using came from WagerJunction, simply because of the way my name is spelled. I made a spelling mistake on my name when I signed up with wagerjunction, on purpose.

    This same exact misspelling of my name appears on all the spam from Lucky7Casinos.
    This is the ONLY place where my real full name was misspelled.. so it has to be Wagerjunction selling my personal information to spammers.

    I don't know who is worse, the Spammer or the thief that sells your personal information to the spammers... OK I know who is worse, the guy that sells your information.

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    Lots0, I am going to move the thread to the WagerJunction forum so they can be aware of this.
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    I just found this post because I search for
    Lucky7Casinos - 1188 Queen Street West, Toronto Ontario, Canada M6J1J6

    And the reason I searched for them was because I knew I had posted about these scumbags before.

    They are sad spammers and they will jump form casino to casino as we report them until they go back into hiding for a while and they will return again....

    The spam I got from them today used the domain xxstuffedberry.com for the affiliate link redirect.

    I think this should stay in the unethical forum and you could let WJ know about it since there will certainly be more reports about these guys.

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    Alright, I sent WagerJunction an email pointing them to the thread.
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    I don't expect much from wagerjunction.
    WJ and I have had many problems and public "discussions" with Wj and it's shills, that have ended in closed threads, name calling and attacks on my site.

    I just want other affs to be aware that their personal private info is not so private with wagerjunction.
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    Lots0 reported spam and believed his email was released by WagerJuction. Under the premise that WJ data had either been breached or sold I investigated to see if I could tie the spam to WagerJuction’s data. If there was a data breach or data had been sold, it is likely that additional WJ affiliate accounts would have received the same spam. I checked three separate WJ email accounts that the APCW maintains for auditing purposes. One of them was my personal account. Neither account received the spam Lots0 received. I would think if it was in fact a data breach or sale, I would be seeing the same spam in the other accounts.

    Also WagerJunction investigated the issue and did not find the spam message in their test accounts. In addition the name they have on file for Lots0’s accounts do not match the name on the spam email.

    Based on these facts I believe the spam was not sent to the WJ database. We don’t doubt Lots0 was spammed. But we don’t think it came from WagerJunction. We treat spam complaints seriously and investigate them to the best of our ability; in this case I feel WJ was unjustly accused.

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    Also keep in mind that the data sale or breach could have happened quite a while back, and those of us like "Braid" that signed up a long time ago could have been on the list that was compromised that the audit accounts were not.

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    I thought of that as well, two of the accounts are several years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    ... In addition the name they have on file for Lots0’s accounts do not match the name on the spam email.
    If they told you that they lied.

    I would also like to add that now I am receiving quite a bit of new SPAM with the same misspelled name on it..
    Kinda like someone is trying to rub my face in the fact they are selling or even giving away my data...

    I know it came from Wager Junction, no doubt in my mind at all.

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    no doubt in my mind at all
    What a scary place your mind must be. So despite the fact that a respected person who regularily conducts audits of affiliate sites stating the obvious , you insist that WJ are lying. I know who i would rather believe.

    If i had to choose a version would i choose a person who does this sort of work or a webmaster with conflicting stories -hmmmmm hard choice.

    Oh yeah - the conflicting stories comes from reading your amusing posts - in one thread you are thanking WJ for all of the extra traffic , so much so that you had to shut the site down ( yeah right ) and in the next thread you are accusing them of attacking your site. The question that i ask myself is , why would an affiliate program take the time and resource to attack a site ? Especially one that does not cater to its markets ?

    No im afraid i am definitely with Anthony on this one. You can also go on with name calling , that does not concern me one bit. I am sure that many people know the truth of the matter.

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    I would like to thank Anthony for his investigation and post. I also would like to thank lots0 for his clumsy efforts to hurt our business, based on facts he cannot prove and childish arguments. Apparently, his only proof is his misspelled name. But let me ask you something every logical man would ask:

    An affiliate signs up to affiliate programs with his own will, because he made a choice that this affiliate program is good and worth promoting. So he enters his details correct in every single one of them, but he chooses one to make a spelling mistake on purpose ? Why ? Does he know that he is not going to like them two years later ? And how is he going to receive payments if his name is wrong ?

    By the way, we made payments to lots0 so his name in our database matched his banking details. Unless he gave his bank a fake ID with a wrong name, so it could match the wrong details in Wagerjunction. Yes, I could expect a reply like that from him.

    Our program is not perfect but we are always here to answer queries and solve problems to make it better. We are also ready to take the heat when something is our fault. But we won't tolerate unjustified accusations and defamatory comments.

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    Wow a liar and a shill both...

    gman--- ****

    Stelios-- your a liar, you know it and I know it.

    This has simply come down to my word against Stelios's word.

    You affiliates can believe me or not... But I suggest you take a look at my history with this program and other bad affiliate programs that have come and gone over the years.

    In twelve plus years in the business I have butted heads in public with several BAD affiliate programs... Programs that stole from and scammed both players and affiliates programs like grand privy, casino coins, CardSpike, c-planet and others... and in my opinion Wager Junction is among the worst programs out there past or present.

    No I can't prove they sold my info.. If I could prove it I am sure they would not have sold my info in the first place... BUT I KNOW THEY DID.
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    Alright guys, no need for this back and forth to continue. I am closing the thread.
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    I modified the title of the thread to remove the WagerJunction scamming reference do to lack of evidence WJ provided the email address. If additional evidence is presented at a later date we will revisit the issue.
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