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    Default Sportsbook Programs you would never touch...EVER!

    Hi folks. Alot of threads all over the place on this issue,and affiliate guard dog not much better. The whole point of this site seems to be to unite and make sure we identify bad programs, so the good ones appreciate the business affiliates bring them, and treat them well. So lets get a list going.

    I'll compile it at the end of the thread with a vote count. Simply list out the programs you would advise people never promote. Ever. A short reason after wards on the one line would be great too if you have the time.

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    betclic will have to go a long way to get my working with them again although i still have expekt at the minute

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    thanks thebookiesoffers.

    I must say it's hard to understand how noone else has anything to add to this thread.

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    NOONE else has sportsbook programs that they wouldn't ever use for whatever reason???

    So it seems like this info is being held back for competition reasons. This seems to go against the whole point of this site, which is to reward the good programs, and to punish the bad ones.

    So holding back info about programs that have shagged you seems a little counter-productive to me.

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    another one to be wary of is Bet24. I worked with them for a few months, sent them about 150 depositing players, started off well then the players went on a winning run. instead of getting rid of the winning players they kicked me off the affiliate program, shut my account and kept all the players I had sent them. tossers

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    Oh boy, where to start..? BetClic, Expekt, WillHill, 888, Party/Gamebookers/Bwin, Jetbull

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    Bwin - for obvious reasons. Two and a half years ago when I was a new affiliate, they were the first program to close my account due to "not satisfying results"

    William Hill - had a good deal with them, all went fine, but their conversion is just so horrible, that I don't know if they are saturated or shave me somehow. AM response times are laughable, sometimes they don't even respond. The affiliate backend is also ridiculous and checking stats for 3-4 months back takes 10 minutes to show up for some reason.

    PaddyPower - not willing to give you cross promotion is another word for "we like to keep our hand in your pocket". Great sportsbook overall but really poor judgement on policies. If they were willing to allow cross promotion for everyone I am sure a lot more people would pick them up.

    Unibet - used to work with them, but after the latest Term Changes, you have to be insane to keep them up. In order to get a player, the user has click and immediately register and deposit otherwise you don't get him/her. If they get lured to another brand of theirs, the tracking is per account rather per person. If Unibet leaves a market and re-enters it all of your players as lost, etc etc there r more terms I just remember a few.

    Ladbrokes - same as the ones above. Change of Terms which leads to nothing good.

    Bmaker.ag former Bookmaker.com - one of the worst affiliate programs I have seen. Quite rude and dishonest, I doubt anyone would ever want to promote them, unless they get some sort of a special treatment.

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    THis is more like it gents, keep it coming. This is the whole point of this board im sure.

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    Excellent post by xecutable. I can see where you are coming from on all of those.

    I would contribute:
    sportingbet - only pays for first 24 months of a referred player. They once closed their affiliate program, taking all referred players with it, only to re-open again a while later and start affiliates from scratch. That should never be forgiven. They have some other devious actions to their name too.
    Betfair - only pays for 3yrs on sports players and the commission starts tapering down after one year. While we do promote Betfair it is very low profile because of these terms. If we were starting all over again they might not get a spot. Very slow to pay - always chasing payments.
    BetUS - closed their affiliate program totally and took all players and stopped paying. If they ever re-open it do not touch with a bargepole.
    Bookmaker - xecutable is spot on. The rudest bunch you will ever encounter and they stole $5k from us when they retrospectively changed their terms. They showed themselves to be so devious we had to stop promoting them and lose the money which they refused to pay. An example of a sportsbook in the twilight zone of legality and adopting morals to match.
    Expekt - gone completely off the rails and appear to be defrauding affiliates out of their players.

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    William Hill - had a good deal with them, all went fine, but their conversion is just so horrible
    William Hill has locked out all German sports bettors. This is a further deterioration of the situation.

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    ...and I guarantee you, they will allow them back sooner or later, only untagged then...

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    follow affiliateguarddog.com and look out for rogue or predatory programs.

    Easier to follow there site than reading all terms and conditions or knowing when they change and turn into a bad program

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    Which one?

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    Sportingbet at December closed all greek affiliate accounts.So they have stolen all affiliate customers and the comissions of so many years.Don't put them into your sites.They are criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmaverick View Post
    Sportingbet at December closed all greek affiliate accounts.So they have stolen all affiliate customers and the comissions of so many years.Don't put them into your sites.They are criminals.
    I've seen posts like the accounts being closed for no good reason. But any idea why they would close the greek affiliated ones?

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    bet-at-home even when they ask you back and offer 60%

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    Sometimes programs use the legal climate in countries as an excuse to take players away, and sometimes there are real issues in some of those countries.

    I am not sure which case this could be but maybe others will.

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    Although mentioned above by xecutable, worth reminding everyone
    PaddyPower - not willing to give you cross promotion
    Everyone I have dealt with from PP has always been good, and had no bad experience with them, but the lack of cross promotion, for me is just stealing money from anyone promoting them.

    Whatever rev share you are getting from them, may as well just take a couple off % of what your getting to be realistic.

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    Heh, Unibet stole cca 100 subaffiliates from me in mid 2011.

    2010-2011 was darkest time in history of Unibet affiliate program (I was working with Unibet even before they launched first one in TradeDoubler in 2006). So many bad decissions, unfair hits from behind etc.

    Got feeling that from second part of 2012 they could be more reliable again.

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    Jsut back to this one without starting a new thread.

    Williamhill - maybe 500+ clicks in 14 months and not one sign up ( there was one phantom one but that went away after a few months).

    have a review done for em so i'll leave em there, but bottom of the pile forever and nothing but filler material now. Have to be screwing me, and besides all that, the backend of their system is the most constipated online presence anywhere on the web, in human history. It's such a f*cking joke that you cant check more than 2 months either way ( and even that takes an absolute eternity, like - nearly five minutes sometimes), and with technology the way it is they must actively WANT it to be that way, as changing something like those limitations and adding more power to the database is really really easy these days.

    In short, Williamhill are pathetic.

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