Are we all in trouble because of AI?

[patdog]

I have been working and learning everything I can about AI within the past 2 months.
And I personaly think we are in for some big big BIG troubles.
AI is going to be chainsaw massacre in the IT/web world.
Am I too pessimistic ?
What do you think ?
I would be interested to have you guys opinions

[Sherlock]

I am learning how to do HVAC systems, I do not feel any threats. Affiliate marketing is already dead.

Few days ago I was solving a simple problem. A warning light switched on in my car. I have no manual, so I wanted to know what light it is. I gave chance to AI once again... and... it wrote e a total nonsense.

So this is my AI Turing test. Until AI recognizes it I refuse to recognize AI.

[eenzoo]

Just opend a restaurant in a tuscan 600 souls villiage.
No AI makes better Linguini allo scoglio than me.
Problem solved.

[patdog]

Just opend a restaurant in a tuscan 600 souls villiage.
No AI makes better Linguini allo scoglio than me.
Problem solved.

Congrats on your new business venture, wish you all the best.

I kind of already know though that AI can not cook.
This is something I had already figured out.

I was talking in the "IT/web world"

[eenzoo]

Thx, what i actually meant, diversification is king. If the margins for mini online marketers become smaller, casinos cheating more then ever, Google become insanely unpredictable, ... i think its good idea to develope some real world business. Food, transportation, constraction, security. And i'm surprised by myself, but its such easy money.

[iso2009]

It's not so far fetched to expect some kind of AGI in the next 10 years. When I say "some kind of AGI" it's kind of funny, because nobody knows how advanced the systems will be. But let's assume we will get there. What will happen?

Some jobs will not be affected at all (plumber, electrician etc). Other jobs will be even more productive (IT, health etc). A big part of the office jobs will be lost.

Probably 1 in 3 white collar job (low and medium level) is absolutely useless and ready to be given to an AI assistant. That will be a big social shakeup, so I guess the AI revolution will be implemented slowly.

Poor and medium developed countries will be hit harder, because they provide now these type of human assistants: customer service, low complexity IT jobs, low value added services.

As for us, I have no idea. I think the ability to adapt will make the difference. Some of us here are over 40, so it's harder to adapt faster. Overall, I think there will be massive changes in the whole industry of online marketing.

The sooner one can identify how to use these new powerful technologies to gain an advantage, the better.

[Sherlock]

10 years ago I heard that by now our cars will be driven by computer, I somehow do not see it.

How can AI solve problems when it says about PTO light control that it is a braking light?

Yes, one guy I know made by AI pretty sophisticated program about recognising some video features. Without coder or programmer. That is pretty impressive. My brother used to be graphic designer, he lost a job. But that is just part of the evolution, that always affected everyone.

[iso2009]

If you want to know what will happen to the web, you need to check how Google is doing. They own this "ecosystem". They can shape it in whatever way they want/need. Which is a very dangerous monopoly.

As of today, Google lost the control of the ecosystem. It's debatable if they did it on purpose or not. My own opinion is that they just lost it and have no idea how to bring back an equilibrium (ie Reddit vs the rest of the web). It's out of control and it's one example of poorly done AI gone wrong.

[iso2009]

10 years ago I heard that by now our cars will be driven by computer, I somehow do not see it.

How can AI solve problems when it says about PTO light control that it is a braking light?

Yes, one guy I know made by AI pretty sophisticated program about recognising some video features. Without coder or programmer. That is pretty impressive. My brother used to be graphic designer, he lost a job. But that is just part of the evolution, that always affected everyone.

There are cars driven by computers and I think we got pretty far in this matter. Of course, if you listen to Elon Musk saying "next year, Tesla will..." and he has been saying that for years and years, you'd be disappointed. But if you look at what can be done today by self driving cars, it's a little impressive.

Of course there's no self driving car which can be "trusted" 100% (yet), and of course Musk is only trying to sell products and gives false hope, but in the end there's a lot of progress in this area.

The AI can't solve your issue because the training data is not good enough yet. And vision in AI is still in the beginning. The most advanced features now are in the realm of natural language. It will get better over time.

Yes, evolution and adaptability. Same story, different century.

[Sherlock]

Reddit vs the rest of the web ?? explain pls

[Sherlock]

Look, what I see, on my own eyes, is no one car in real world driving automatic.

What I see is some advance in IT, not AI and how it reacts to the world. And the results are that people are going backwards. There is a ton of potentially useful technology, but people are totally lost with it so there is some hybrid between old paper world and new IT and it is worse than before. We are using computers but with the old style of thinking and the young people are even more stupid with this, because the depth of understanding is even shallower.

I am trying for something new, I really do. Piece of land in nowhere, IoT, automatization of energy etc. But Those things, in reality, are not advanced. There is hardware that can work, but the software it is all in form of concepts and hobby. So many mistakes in software, nobody is fixing it.

It was bad before AI. I do not know about Google how it is insane as you write it. But I see my own IT madness everywhere. Will AI make it better? I already persuaded a policeman with paper from chatgpt about something that is NOT true and he had no clue about. Good for me, ok. But .. ummm.

[iso2009]

Reddit vs the rest of the web ?? explain pls

We all know that Reddit suddenly started to get a lot of traffic from Google and it has been rising and rising everyday. As far as I know, they defended their position by saying that people were looking for Reddit posts by adding "reddit" to keywords. Partially (and ironically) this happened because Reddit built-in search sucks big time.

To give such weight to a single site in the ecosystem is bad. It denies other valuable content, which often is only regurgitated on Reddit, not always mentioning the source.

This is why I say "Reddit vs the rest of the web".

[Sherlock]

We all do not know. I did not know. I do not care about SEO lately. But I am adding "reddit" to many of my google searches, although the info on reddit is mediocre at best and debating with people is useless.

But it makes sense to me. Reddit is a meta-forum about everything. Everything else in the internet is just a pure marketing bs (which explains also why Reddit is getting worse and worse).

[iso2009]

Look, what I see, on my own eyes, is no one car in real world driving automatic.

What I see is some advance in IT, not AI and how it reacts to the world. And the results are that people are going backwards. There is a ton of potentially useful technology, but people are totally lost with it so there is some hybrid between old paper world and new IT and it is worse than before. We are using computers but with the old style of thinking and the young people are even more stupid with this, because the depth of understanding is even shallower.

I am trying for something new, I really do. Piece of land in nowhere, IoT, automatization of energy etc. But Those things, in reality, are not advanced. There is hardware that can work, but the software it is all in form of concepts and hobby. So many mistakes in software, nobody is fixing it.

It was bad before AI. I do not know about Google how it is insane as you write it. But I see my own IT madness everywhere. Will AI make it better? I already persuaded a policeman with paper from chatgpt about something that is NOT true and he had no clue about. Good for me, ok. But .. ummm.

The tech which is employed now in AI is fairly new. The Transformer was developed in 2017. Give it some time. It already evolves much rapidly that it was once thought. AGI will probably need a new technology, different from transformers.

[iso2009]

It makes sense, but as you say, the content is mediocre. There's still a problem of weight. I'm not a regular user of Reddit, I have no idea if the content was mediocre 2 years ago. But suddenly Google decided it's what we really want, so Reddit now weights more than anything else, on average (that means is everywhere, not always as the primary source, but it's within reach - top 10). Not healthy.

My take is that OP is right to be worried about the future (what a big cliche that is). In the last 10-15 years, we had some predictable models (with enough variations, but still predicable) of doing online marketing, especially SEO. AI will shake this for sure.

[Sherlock]

I am the biggest techno-optimist. But hearing give it a decade ok... I gave a decade to autonomous driving and it is practically nowhere. I gave a decade to personal drones, because I really need it and it is nowhere. I have 4 decades to cold fusion... and I will patiently wait for fifth decade....

There were idiots who thought now we all will pay with BTC. I was writing 10 years ago the same sceptic posts about crypto payments in the last mile although I believe in crypto. So I am repeating my rant. AI is just better access to the "global database", but this progress was doing Google itself until now.

The development occurs but usually not in the mainstream. Where expectations are high, usually nothing happens.

[Sherlock]

It makes sense, but as you say, the content is mediocre. There's still a problem of weight. I'm not a regular user of Reddit, I have no idea if the content was mediocre 2 years ago. But suddenly Google decided it's what we really want, so Reddit now weights more than anything else, on average (that means is everywhere, not always as the primary source, but it's within reach - top 10). Not healthy.

My take is that OP is right to be worried about the future (what a big cliche that is). In the last 10-15 years, we had some predictable models (with enough variations, but still predicable) of doing online marketing, especially SEO. AI will shake this for sure.

I was a redditor for over 10 years. I am changing my nicknames often. In the last years, probably since covid, I am not posting, because it is useless. Typically you ask about problem A and some wise US citizen tells you that you have to do something totally else or that you are an idiot that you are asking. My last drop those many years ago was asking about Lightning Network. In short nobody gave me concrete answer about my doubts about LN capacity and fees. I got arrogant links to whitepaper. Sentences with few words where I supposedly do not understand the problem etc. And now.. people realize that LN indeed has this problem. This was my last drop where I realised that all social networks not just Reddit are or always were mediocre and I am rarely asking anyone like you today. But I think Reddit was really bad 2 years ago and nowadays it is much worse, but since I have no interaction, it is hard to say.

But still as bad the Reddit is, where is some better source? Websites from people like us? Newspapers? It is the same paid propaganda. The Google algorithm simply may have chosen the best from the worst and I can imagine Reddit is exactly that. It is not unhealthy to take the best from worst. The unhealthy is that everyone is dumb, internet is dumb af, social networks are asylum. If I believe in some progress it is not AI. The opportunity for someone or something or some ideology is this general dumbness. Something new will emerge. Sorry for political rant, but why is Russia winning the war against the west and why it can win? Because we are all totally dumb.

This thread indeed will be interesting in 10 years. I hope I am wrong indeed, I can only gain from AI. To know in 2 secs what the light is, would be awesome in my situation. But until AI knows what the light is, I am not a believer.

[allfreechips]

If you coded using cursor (AI Powered version of VS code) you may feel days are numbered as far as programming goes, although thinking still has serious value and of course trouble shooting is always needed. Diversify and buy real assets (property, gold, bullets)

[Karri]

I am the biggest techno-optimist. But hearing give it a decade ok... I gave a decade to autonomous driving and it is practically nowhere. I gave a decade to personal drones, because I really need it and it is nowhere. I have 4 decades to cold fusion... and I will patiently wait for fifth decade....

Drones went the way of warfare, which incidentally is an area that sooner or later leads to commercial inventions too. They are already developing capabilites for transporting supplies, moving wounded, dropping bombs, etc. It will be some time before this will develop into something useful for not killing people (like the drone dropping thermite, surely something like that can be used to fight forest fires?).

[casinobonusguy]

I can only speak for myself here but I plan to make the next 2 years count in terms of sorting out my finances and not depend on my business at the level I do now. We may be surprised and our human content sites may be on top and AI generated sites be dropped to the bottom .I am 28 months from being able to access my retirement funds made possible by this business ,those who didn't save for rainy day will always suffer .BTW Eenzoo I will come eat at your restaurant when I go to Italy next year if you send me the details !