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    "I am replying here again and again even though there are racist and unrespectable comments towards me and the Affiliate program i represent.

    First you played the Nazi card.
    Now the race card.
    The embodiment of incompetence and arrogance.
    You are a communication failure and a coward, because there is a reason why you refuse to provide the license number.

    To make it short but clear: Marc, you should be fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc.AffAlliance View Post
    Your statements are incorrect
    If there's a link between Aff Alliance, Aff Active, Aff Power etc, you wouldn't admit it, even if it's true.
    Because doing so would be suicide for both Aff Alliance and their casinos. Denial is the only option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyfeet View Post
    If there's a link between Aff Alliance, Aff Active, Aff Power etc, you wouldn't admit it, even if it's true.
    Because doing so would be suicide for both Aff Alliance and their casinos. Denial is the only option.
    You can check directly with Anthony if is there is any conncection and you can be sure that if there was we wouldnt be allwed to be sponsors here if here was even 1% of any connection. Thats why Eric got fired because we dont want to be associated to any of the groups that you states on the top.
    Moreover if there was any connection we wouldnt be listed on so many webmasters sites like we are.

    Everything you are saying is incorrect except the fact we should work to make our terms and conditions more player-friendly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc.AffAlliance View Post
    You are 100% right, but we didnt get a chance to prove ourself. Actions speak louder than words and so far we are doing the best we can to be reputable and to fix the stuff that needs to be fixed.
    Like said before, they way you act here doesn't encourage to have a look at your brands. And if so, the terms & conditions would be a game killer. Instead of a false start, it seem to be a structural way of communicating. Also calling people here racists...

    However, I must say I don't see any evidence of a link with AffActive. The fact that some terms are similar doesn't mean there's a link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple7 View Post
    Like said before, they way you act here doesn't encourage to have a look at your brands. And if so, the terms & conditions would be a game killer. Instead of a false start, it seem to be a structural way of communicating. Also calling people here racists...

    However, I must say I don't see any evidence of a link with AffActive. The fact that some terms are similar doesn't mean there's a link.
    You are right and again i critisize myself for maybe overreacting but its hard when everyone is attacking you without even giving a chance to explain, we are willing to work to improve our terms and conditions as stated in order to make it as player-friendly as possible.

    Reagrding our affiliate terms and conditions you can be most definite sure that you get group of affiliate managers thay will work for you rather than the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc.AffAlliance View Post
    You are right and again i critisize myself for maybe overreacting but its hard when everyone is attacking you without even giving a chance to explain, we are willing to work to improve our terms and conditions as stated in order to make it as player-friendly as possible.

    Reagrding our affiliate terms and conditions you can be most definite sure that you get group of affiliate managers thay will work for you rather than the opposite.

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    Marc,

    A good start to put the whole related companies thing to bed once and for all, I strongly urge you to publicly disclose the specifics of your licence info. I believe the fact that there is reluctance to disclose this information to the public leaves opportunity for speculation to run wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc.AffAlliance View Post
    You are right and again i critisize myself for maybe overreacting but its hard when everyone is attacking you without even giving a chance to explain, we are willing to work to improve our terms and conditions as stated in order to make it as player-friendly as possible.

    Reagrding our affiliate terms and conditions you can be most definite sure that you get group of affiliate managers thay will work for you rather than the opposite.

    Thanks,
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    We are a true community.
    Do not stress Marc.
    Affiliates ask questions and this is normal.
    Between us too, when we have something to say, we say it.
    We do not always agree on everything.
    For example, I regret Eric. He was a good manager and very reactive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shay- View Post
    Marc,

    A good start to put the whole related companies thing to bed once and for all, I strongly urge you to publicly disclose the specifics of your licence info. I believe the fact that there is reluctance to disclose this information to the public leaves opportunity for speculation to run wild.

    Hi Shay,

    Let me check on that and revert to you,

    Thanks for that

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    Representative = Communication = Image building = Character

    "i critisize myself for maybe overreacting but its hard..."

    The emphasis [again] is on "but"
    But, but, but ....
    Again, again and again ...
    Since weeks now.
    No, for me it is enough now with this but, but, but...
    1st chance ... failure, 2nd chance missed, 3rd chance missed, ...
    What is coming after 3rd chance?
    You are right!
    No chance.

    You want more?
    Small details are important.
    "Thanks: 0"
    In words: ZERO
    Any questions?

    I am fed up with amateurs in this industry. People, who obviously are not qualified and not fit for the job, have to leave. Here we are talking about a lot of money, for players and webmasters and not about a stand with a ice cream machine. Even if I would place only an ice cream machine outside a shopping mall, I would never allow a wacko or an excuse expert or customer insulter to serve my product to the people.

    Even if this program would have 10 licenses, it's simply too late for a come-back.
    Perhaps some people from the country of forgiveness see that differently, what thank Goodness is their right, but here in Germany, the country of pragmatism, there are no jobs about money for incompetent amateurs.
    And everyone knows, why.

    The representatives from 8 of 10 new programs are a complete communication disaster.
    Any objections?

    Leopold

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    Marc, I'm sure your casinos don't enforce a "player class" on deposits. Only on withdrawals. Evident by "player class" stated by the rep for both Eclipse Casino and BoVegas Casino, when it comes to paying winners

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc.AffAlliance View Post
    we are willing to work to improve our terms and conditions as stated in order to make it as player-friendly as possible.
    If the casinos held a genuine concern about improving player conditions, these players would have been paid-in-full by now. Instead, all I see is more of the same excuses, along with that phrase "player class", used to justified a reason not to pay these winners. The casinos accepted the bet(s), now it's the casinos job to honor these winning bets and pay these players in full. No ifs or buts.

    Your casinos currently use ambiguous payment terms to delay payment of winnings. If paying such a paltry sum, is as it seems impossible, then these casinos along with the affiliate program should not be in this gaming industry because these casinos are not casinos at all. Instead, as state previously: they are definitely Clip Joints.
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    How about this one?
    https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-c...payout-process

    This is the well known Affactive scam in action.

    1. Delay payments for months until player complains publicly.
    2. Send out a tiny instalment of $150, citing "player class" as reason for payment amount.
    3. Invoke the "30 day F.U." clause to force the player to play some more otherwise they can't withdraw the rest.
    4. Player plays some more and loses everything.
    5. Profit!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muppet View Post
    How about this one?
    https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-c...payout-process

    This is the well known Affactive scam in action.

    1. Delay payments for months until player complains publicly.
    2. Send out a tiny instalment of $150, citing "player class" as reason for payment amount.
    3. Invoke the "30 day F.U." clause to force the player to play some more otherwise they can't withdraw the rest.
    4. Player plays some more and loses everything.
    5. Profit!!!
    I read this
    "A player class is determined by various factors, the main of them are depositing and gaming activity of the player. If players depositing and gaming activity is low, like in this particular case, we send winnings in minimal installments. Please note that we are not in any case limiting the total amount a player can withdraw. The higher is the player class, the bigger are installments and the shorter are payment processing timeframes."

    A player, who deposits $ 20 and $ 100 must be paid.
    I had not read this.
    Tomorrow I go to the casino, I put 20 euros, I win and I am told:
    "No, I do not pay you because you have not enough money"
    You are serious???? You change that when?
    Because I remove all casinos from my sites, if that remains so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muppet View Post
    This is the well known Affactive scam in action.

    1. Delay payments for months until player complains publicly.
    2. Send out a tiny instalment of $150, citing "player class" as reason for payment amount.
    3. Invoke the "30 day F.U." clause to force the player to play some more otherwise they can't withdraw the rest.
    4. Player plays some more and loses everything.
    5. Profit!!!
    Yes, spot on, just as I thought previously:

    Quote Originally Posted by happyfeet View Post
    Take note of the word player class.
    What other clip joints used that term, to deny legitimate winnings to players? Affactive Casinos.

    Aff Active > Aff Alliance
    Licensing details requested in the thread many times, never provided. Along with indentical "F.U." clauses used by Aff Active who are known criminals. Given this information, I would hope the GPWA takes a closer look at this matter
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    Quote Originally Posted by happyfeet View Post

    I would hope the GPWA takes a closer look at this matter
    Ah,money make the rules...today i can kill two childerns,and tomorrow i can get the gold sponsorship.
    GPWA is not really a GPWA,the idea is good - but not so.

    This is sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyfeet View Post
    Marc, I'm sure your casinos don't enforce a "player class" on deposits. Only on withdrawals. Evident by "player class" stated by the rep for both Eclipse Casino and BoVegas Casino, when it comes to paying winners



    If the casinos held a genuine concern about improving player conditions, these players would have been paid-in-full by now. Instead, all I see is more of the same excuses, along with that phrase "player class", used to justified a reason not to pay these winners. The casinos accepted the bet(s), now it's the casinos job to honor these winning bets and pay these players in full. No ifs or buts.

    Your casinos currently use ambiguous payment terms to delay payment of winnings. If paying such a paltry sum, is as it seems impossible, then these casinos along with the affiliate program should not be in this gaming industry because these casinos are not casinos at all. Instead, as state previously: they are definitely Clip Joints.
    Our casinos enforce Player class also on deposits, it goes both ways.

    Those complaints were submitting few days ago and we are working towards closing them and having the players paid fully.

    Every player will get 100% of his winnings and their withdrawals like any other player that ever won in our casino.

    Best Marc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muppet View Post
    How about this one?
    https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-c...payout-process

    This is the well known Affactive scam in action.

    1. Delay payments for months until player complains publicly.
    2. Send out a tiny instalment of $150, citing "player class" as reason for payment amount.
    3. Invoke the "30 day F.U." clause to force the player to play some more otherwise they can't withdraw the rest.
    4. Player plays some more and loses everything.
    5. Profit!!!
    The minimum per installment is $250 those are old terms and conditions and the complaint was rejected due to the fact that the player received all his withdraw.

    Best,
    Marc

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    Quote Originally Posted by celena View Post
    I read this
    "A player class is determined by various factors, the main of them are depositing and gaming activity of the player. If players depositing and gaming activity is low, like in this particular case, we send winnings in minimal installments. Please note that we are not in any case limiting the total amount a player can withdraw. The higher is the player class, the bigger are installments and the shorter are payment processing timeframes."

    A player, who deposits $ 20 and $ 100 must be paid.
    I had not read this.
    Tomorrow I go to the casino, I put 20 euros, I win and I am told:
    "No, I do not pay you because you have not enough money"
    You are serious???? You change that when?
    Because I remove all casinos from my sites, if that remains so.
    All the player's winnings are being paid, the minimum amount to withdraw is $150.
    Even if you deposit 20, 100, 250 or 500 you will get paid and you will receive your withdraw regardless of the player class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyfeet View Post
    Yes, spot on, just as I thought previously:



    Licensing details requested in the thread many times, never provided. Along with indentical "F.U." clauses used by Aff Active who are known criminals. Given this information, I would hope the GPWA takes a closer look at this matter
    The licensing will be provided shortly after I discuss with management, everyone on their summer vacation its hard to move things.

    Unless you have clear evidence for this which you don't have and you won't because it's simply not true there is no point repeating it again and again, by repeating something which is 100% untrue wont make it true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc.AffAlliance View Post
    All the player's winnings are being paid, the minimum amount to withdraw is $150.
    Even if you deposit 20, 100, 250 or 500 you will get paid and you will receive your withdraw regardless of the player class.
    This sounds good,but the 150$ minimum payout rule is still to high. Is it possible to set it on 50$. ?

    And,we still need a license...

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