Online Casinos and Russian Federation.

[ALEX777]

I have noticed that not many casinos are working with Russian Federation , some Casinos like SunnyGrup are having problems with Russia and former USSR Countries. Microgaming casinos do not working with RF at all ! Can somebody explain to me , why so many casinos are ignoring Russian Federation and Russian Banks ?

Thenks !

[magicdane]

Hi Alex,

MG had some heavy credit card fraud going on some years ago with RF countries, and decided that players from these countries wasn´t allowed to sign up for a realaccount.

[ALEX777]

magicdane:>>> They have made a big mistake ... There are many real potential players with the big money

[magicdane]

Yes I´m sure you´re right about the big players, but I´m also quite sure MG casinos did the math on the RF players.

In total they must have experianced a loss.

[YuraK]

magicdane

Thanks for info. But I don't think banning countries because of bad math results is very good thing (as Dane you should know!). And about frauds as far as I understand it takes 2-3 days for money to reach your account. Casino can just postpone payout for several days to be sure it really get all the money.

[magicdane]

Hi Yura,

I´ve seen the effects of danish bonus hunters when it started in 2001; at that time there was generally low playthrough requirements on welcome bonuses, and this was featured in a newscast on danish television.

The results were damaging to say it mildly, because these players didn´t want to play - they were only interested in a quick buck and then went on to the next casino.

I guess some of the casinos that continued to have free welcome bonuses for danes even months after the newscast hoped for a bigger marketshare, but the math/positive buttomline wasn´t there.

Things have changed though - both in the attitude of danish players towards gambling and the WR requirements if they take the bonus. And MG casinos are some of the very few that allow danes to play for money at all today.

Fraud is complicated to handle as the casino is allways at risk of chargebacks etc, and it´s often the abuse of a few that ruins it for the majority.

[YuraK]

MagicDane

Thanks for interesting info about Denmark gambling history . I've met one guy at Be the Dealer who used to play at 200 casinos, but now play at BtD only .
AFAIK almost all casinos accepts Danes though they either do not grant bonus at all or set double wagering requirements. Situation is quite worse for Russia.

[magicdane]

Yura,

I´ve tried promoting BtD but their concept seems to confuse new players.

At the few RTG and Playtech casinos I recently checked Danes aren´t allowed to open realaccounts at all; I don´t understand why, as they could just refuse to give them any bonus if that´s the problem.

Maybe Denmark will soon be in the same category as RF countries, and allthough I don´t promote to danish players I think it would be sad.

[poker]

Just out of curiosity, I've heard that there are online clubs with the only purpose of bonus hunting so when there is a good prey e.g a casion issuing a nice bonus the alarm goes and the danes invades the casino. Sometimes swedes and norwegians are also bundled with the danes in the bonus disclaimers (for instance thepokerclub.com) but it seems to be mainly a danish phenomena (when considering the scandinavian countries).

/poker

[magicdane]

Hi Poker,

I know there were danish websites some time ago that had only that purpose (bonus hunting), and the webmaster encouraged all players to rip the casinos.

And I´m sure there has been clubs too - bonus hunting allmost became a national sport in spring 2001.

But they seem to have disappeared, and generally you´ll see that casinos have WR of 20(D+B) nowadays for danish players.

[croupier]

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