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    If someone with a gambling problem wants to gamble, they'll find a way to do just that. Gamstop, blocking software or any other means is useless UNLESS the person wants to completely STOP gambling. If that's the case, then I'm sure they'd take steps to ensure they don't have access to cash.

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    I've heard a lot of stories when people just change some address details and they're allowed to play again. How to withdraw then? It's another story
    If someone is a compulsive gambler, they blow all their cash, and winnings, so withdrawing isn't a concern. Not playing in the 1'st place is the issue.

    As GA says: 1 bet is too many, and 1,000 isn't enough!
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    If that's the case, then I'm sure they'd take steps to ensure they don't have access to cash.
    I am not sure if I understand you here.

    But if someone wants to stop gambling he must have access to cash but he can not gamble it away. This is why it is so hard to achieve. If a gambler has no access to cash, he can not gamble it away but he will once he has the access.

    The determination to change (any)things must be really real, not some hide and seek game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    I am not sure if I understand you here.
    One of basic recommendations of GA, AA, NA (any other addiction) which requires cash to feed said addiction, is to limited the cash one can get hold of; least until a person is 90 days clean.

    A friend of mine had a bad drinking problem (alcoholic). When his sister finally took over the management his finances (she received his weekly pay into her bank account) she was able to help turn his life around. Everything he needed was purchased for him. He wasn't given any cash for 90 days. While he admitted it was hard, he also said without money in his pocket, this significantly reduced the temptation to drink.

    With this assistance, and the help of AA, he quit drinking.
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    I am really not sure about many things here, just I know that what they do in the UK is useless.

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    - Is alcohol and money that much comparable? Yes it is the object of desire. But one really does not need an alcohol. But one def needs money.
    - What about long term effects of this 90 days therapy?
    - I was also gambler, even underage gambler. It stopped one day when I said "I quit". It had nothing to do with money.
    - If all sins are the same, then I did not ever see cured alcoholic, just those who quit for few years and then they slowly started again and then went again full retard into it. But I saw - so far - some people quitting smoking, e.g. my aunt. She said the same as me with gambling: once day I decided to quit and that was it.
    - When it is about money, but not gambling... there are way too many people today who simply spend more than they can afford. "I have" 2 people like this who in a way work for me and I am trying to cure them other way around, because I really do not think the cash restriction leads anywhere. When I have to pay them, I am always giving them something extra and ask them if they accept it. The trick is that this extra money must go to the spacial vault that they can touch only when they need the money as investment when they do something for me (and when we meet I immediately give them the money back). Otherwise it must be in their pocket all the time. It can not be spent even in highest emergency. I really believe people can learn to not be idiots with money only like this.

    I have seen way too many people who were restricted from 3rd party from what they desired and what I saw they just wait for the trigger to abruptly end their dry periods. The point is not the restriction, the point is that people must decide to restrict themselves with all the pain involved.
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    Dont hate me, but I think its a good idea. I completly get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    I am not sure if I understand you here.

    But if someone wants to stop gambling he must have access to cash but he can not gamble it away. This is why it is so hard to achieve. If a gambler has no access to cash, he can not gamble it away but he will once he has the access.

    The determination to change (any)things must be really real, not some hide and seek game.
    Well Put Brother!

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    agree! other way, they'll gamble in landbased casinos cause no Gamstop there
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    Fully support you. Gamstop isn't a choice, anyone who wants to gamble could easily find non gamstop casinos

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    Gamstop or not Gamstop. It doesn't matter, if people want to play they will find where.

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