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    Default $1000 in deposits, $200 in Rev Share, is ok?

    Hi everybody,

    Im working with an affiliatte program with revenue share. And Im happy with the convertions but not with my earnings, my AM says I have to be patient but I dont know if Im taking the right decisions, cause if I have made a CPA deal I could be winning the double, but also I dont know how much can I win with Rev Share... What do you think about?

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    If your players are depositing $1000, and you're making $200, I'm assuming that the players lost all of their money and you're getting 20% RevShare?

    Most groups offer a minimum of 25% and can go anywhere up to +60% (generally the commission percentages higher than 40% are for special promotions or for a limited time period)..

    The other thing I'd like to note is that if you were on a CPA deal and your players collectively deposited $1000 (this would also depend on how many players were in this group and how much you were getting paid for each player), if the casino is not making a profit on the players you're sending, you will find they will likely not continue with the deal.

    The point of a partnership is that both parties make a profit. So if only one party is making a profit, the other party will eventually cancel the deal.
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    I think what Nico is saying is that his depositors have lost $1000 but he's made only $200 from a CPA deal so I'm figuring he has probably 2 players there.

    Over time, providing you send as good a quality player as you can, then I'm pretty sure everyone will agree that Rev Share is the way to go. It's all I'll work with.

    At the moment what you're getting works out at 20% on average which isn't bad but I suspect on rev share you'll get 30-40% fairly easily thus increasing your earnings two-fold.

    A 20% average on CPA isn't the end of the World but if you hit a whale that sinks $10,000 next month you're going to be pretty sick picking up $200 instead of say $30,000.

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    This is always a tricky question, the thing you need to do is assess how you are getting traffic and how much that is costing you - some merchants you work with could be better off on a CPA deal if their conversion is high (their brand value pulls new customers easily) , whilst others would be better on a Rev share partnership as they convert their players and keep them loyal longer term.

    As an affiliate you should hand pick the merhcants you wish to work with and then run a mix of both campaigns to make the website more profitable and also allow you to build long term relationships as Renee mentioned before.

    Find the right mix of the two for your site - and you could be earning a profitable income whislt building solid business relationships!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doolally View Post
    I think what Nico is saying is that his depositors have lost $1000 but he's made only $200 from a CPA deal so I'm figuring he has probably 2 players there.

    Over time, providing you send as good a quality player as you can, then I'm pretty sure everyone will agree that Rev Share is the way to go. It's all I'll work with.

    At the moment what you're getting works out at 20% on average which isn't bad but I suspect on rev share you'll get 30-40% fairly easily thus increasing your earnings two-fold.

    A 20% average on CPA isn't the end of the World but if you hit a whale that sinks $10,000 next month you're going to be pretty sick picking up $200 instead of say $30,000.
    He said he would have been better on CPA, which makes me think he is on RevShare.. This line also made me think he is on RevShare:

    Im working with an affiliatte program with revenue share.
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    First of all, thank you everybody for the answers! I work with Revenue Share because I think is the most fair way to work thinking in a long term. The 1000 were made by 7 players and I think they have like 300 in their account (all together), so if they loose that I should get 100 (300 in total). But what if they win and make a retirement? Maybe it is bad for a short term, but maybe is very good for a long term, isnt it?

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    p.d. Im in 30% rev
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    I wouldn't worry about that. Check to see if your program has a "no negative" carryover. If they do, then you will never have to worry about that.

    I remember a long time ago when I was a EuroPartners affiliate. I had a big winner and they did me the favor of removing the player's win. That was pretty cool because I would have needed a year of consistent winnings to get back to zero.

    For the record, LiveCasinoPartners has a no negative carryover with high roller policy.

    Good luck!

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