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    Quote Originally Posted by antihacker View Post
    This is why we need an organized independent central point [...] which will actually be able to DO something about it.
    Well, ...

    "[...] no independent forum exist. [...] only a complete sponsor or banner free forum would give the right answers at any time to all questions or concerns [...] Who is a black sheep? This will be judged by an external commission, consisting of criminologists, laywers and consumer protectors."

    Source: http://www.cassaon-casino.com/interv...opold-friesen/

    The problem: This "central point" is not able to play the role of police, judges, prosecutors, defence lawyers and jurors.

    It can only be an internal (!) supervision for this industry, a kind of Ethics Council with -ultimately- authority to collect financial penalties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung View Post
    Well, ...


    The problem: This "central point" is not able to play the role of police, judges, prosecutors, defence lawyers and jurors.

    It can only be an internal (!) supervision for this industry, a kind of Ethics Council with -ultimately- authority to collect financial penalties.

    Leopold
    A forum is NOT what is going to do it. Ads or not. This central point CAN tackle hackers, CAN employ international lawyers, CAN set up a team of professionals, and CAN work independent but side by side with the industry.

    I believe no one has faith in it. I volunteered for it, but that offer won't last long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antihacker View Post
    A forum is NOT what is going to do it. Ads or not. This central point CAN tackle hackers, CAN employ international lawyers, CAN set up a team of professionals, and CAN work independent but side by side with the industry.

    I believe no one has faith in it. I volunteered for it, but that offer won't last long.
    I'm still unclear what exactly is being proposed and how exactly it is guaranteeing success.

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    When considering the "Anti-hacker" Group you have proposed - consider that it's unlikely to be well funded or have ANY mandated power itself.

    To be effective the group will need to be able to identify the hacks, and then clearly articulate the situation to the appropriate authorities (Search Engines, Licensing Bodies, Gambling Companies, Law Enforcement and Affiliate Forums) so that these groups can enforce their own policies. It is a role of identification and communication - not one of enforcement.

    It is extremely unlikely that any private or civil action by the anti-hacker group against a disparate group of hackers would ever get anywhere near a courtroom no matter which jurisdiction you attempted to bring it - and even if it did it's unlikely to extract any sort of financial penalty from individuals living around the world.

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    Antihacker - You clearly have enthusiasm and technical knowledge of the internet world. Your intelligence and drive are obvious.

    However - having technical skills and knowledge are a only a small part of the group - and are not the most important function.

    It's extremely doubtful that you would be nominated for any sort of leadership role as a central point for a "Anti-hacker" office. You lack the experience, patience, contacts and management skills to lead a group of people in what would be a very challenging and frequently frustrating task.

    You have declared yourself OUT of this situation at least THREE times that I can count, have hurled abuse at various well intentioned posters in the threads because they did not move fast enough for your liking, or disagreed with your actions, and have generally displayed a lack of business nous during this whole process.

    Your last sentence in post #22 above attempting to impose a time limit on your offer just underlines the impulsive tendencies that have no part in leading a group that will be more about consensus with lawyers, legal process, and discussions with SE groups and businesses taking months to get results rather than charging around kicking over servers on a crime busting crusade getting immediate results.

    I hope that my post does not annoy you (although I'm sure it is not what you wanted to hear) but rather than ignore your repeated prompts on the anti-hacker group ... I wanted to post a genuine response to the idea.

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    The best option IMO is to remove exposure for the sponsors that allow hackers, good programs wont tolerate nor want to associate themselves with cyber crime.

    Affpower eg will not last long as most affiliates do not like programs that do.

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    Pretty harsh Gooner.

    I do agree the funding would not be forthcoming but Antihacker would do well starting up his own company offering services to protect webmasters. With his passion and talent and knowledge.

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    OMG!

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    15. October!
    "we are sending the email [...] to our entire database of affiliate programs and their representatives"



    Source: Hacker's social network | A few minutes ago!

    Mega Casino = GPWA Gold sponsor (!) Prime Partners!

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    benjiprimepartners
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    Benji Epstein
    Affiliate Manager
    [...]
    Last Activity: 5 Nov 2014
    Source: https://www.gpwa.org/member/benjiprimepartners

    15. October: "we are sending the email [...] to our entire database of affiliate programs and their representatives"
    Prime Partners: "Last Activity: 5 Nov 2014"

    10. November:
    No statement.
    No banner removal.

    Prime Partners, the last remaining GPWA sponsor on the criminal list, fell into a catatonic rigidity.

    Simple question: Is that the general idea of this thread?

    ???

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    Prime Partners has terminated their agreement with the hacker. There has been a few sites that the hacker has not taken down even though the affiliate account has been closed. Bottom line, he is not earning commission from Prime and we hope to see him take the listing down soon.
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    "Prime Partners has terminated their agreement with the hacker."

    Thank you for posting this information, Anthony.

    Representatives should not work under the motto: "Do not insist on carrying out a work yourself, if another one can do it instead of you."

    Perhaps the next time all the programs concerned should invest 2 minutes for a public statement to do their own work.

    Other representatives have shown, how easy it is.
    Two examples:

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    7. September
    Robin Becker - Europartners

    "As of Friday we have asked the Affiliate to please remove our brands from his site and we have given him notice that we will be ending our partnership with him due to his unethical behavior. I hope he will remove our brands within the next few days but either way his account will be shut down on our end."
    Source: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/urgent-pl...tml#post766321

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    "I can confirm that our affiliate program doesn't have any deals with affiliate verifiedcasinos. If he was part of my affiliate database, then I would terminate his account immediately. This guy is hacking brands randomly."
    Source: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/urgent-al...tml#post770310

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    The only good thing of this hacking is ... it confirms, that the relentless investigation of the AffPower Mafia since many, many months by some decent Germany webmasters and my modest person was justified ... the 2nd case like that ... justified in the last years!

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    Ok, great news exposing a hacking affiliate, but why does the GPWA not expose the affiliate programs that blatantly advertise on illegal streaming sites too? Just go to google and type in "football live streaming" and go to any of these sites and you see the same culprits knowingly advertising with illegal streaming sites based in Russia etc.

    When I am contacted by affiliate programs that I know are advertised on illegal streaming sites I just refuse to advertise them - mainly because of the fact that you just cannot compete with the illegal streaming affiliates as they cookie someone several times every minute, thus overriding all your hard work as an honest and legal affiliate.

    The point is though - 90% of affiliate programs are happy to take traffic from ANYWHERE - be it illegal, hacking or whatever. It's just business to them.

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    I received a tip today from decent people via email. After some investigation it's clear to me, that with a probability bordering on certainty the domain

    SCOUT.GE

    is (one of) the new home(s) of a hacker.

    Enter in your Google search box

    site:scout.ge (https://www.google.de/search?q=site%....0.UUc3a_sQM34)

    and click on any link (with the exception of the first)!

    It looks like, you will be redirected finally to Crystal Casino (Brand of Gambling Attack - GPWA Platinum sponsor), but be aware!

    Perhaps this is a fake!

    If you click on the link, then the first (!) redirection goes to

    gapingator.com/?s=42&ref=ga_w7452r274001p88_world&url

    and after this it goes to crystalcasino.co

    .CO NOT .COM!!!

    Is gapingator.com a gangster domain?

    Enter

    site:gapingator.com


    in your Google search box: https://www.google.de/search?client=...est&gws_rd=ssl

    Only one domain with Crystal Casino (Fake(?)).

    But now enter

    gapingator.com/?s=

    in your Google search box (https://www.google.de/search?q=gapin....0.3f11RzjPf6c)

    and read some forum entries with the (prior) code and ...

    also very interesting ... enter

    gapingator.com casino (https://www.google.de/search?q=gapin....0.dwmd67d7o_0)

    in your Google search box and be surprised!

    From that point on it's only a small step to draw conclusions. The hacker will blame programs!

    Leopold
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    Wow! Leopold rocks!
    You should become Sherlock Holmes for Internet!
    How did you found this scout.ge ? Just searching net, as usually?

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    Thank you, Leopold for a thorough investigation. No fake here!
    The case is simple as ABC - CrystalCasino has mirror domains that are placed on the same redirector domain. That is done with a mere purpose to balance the traffic load. А user gets redirected to a mirror domain that is most quickly available for his location. Affiliate traffic gets equally tracked and earnings calculated for mirrors as well, no worries here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slava Sushko View Post
    Thank you, Leopold for a thorough investigation. No fake here!
    Oh, -if the .co domain is yours- then you have really a big problem, because if you read my post (https://www.gpwa.org/forum/affiliate...tml#post772284) in full, then you know, that your webmaster from scout.ge is not kosher.

    Examples?

    Working under false flag:

    Europa Casino promotion will be redirected to your Casino: https://www.google.de/search?client=...est&gws_rd=ssl

    Winner Casino promotion will be redirectd to gapingator.com and after it to your Casino: https://www.google.de/search?q=site%....0.1RRyNdLvIhc

    Long Harbour Casino promotion will be redirected to gapingator.com and after it to your Casino: https://www.google.de/search?q=site%...Asite:SCOUT.GE

    Betsson Casino will be redirected to gapingator.com and after it to your Casino: https://www.google.de/search?q=site:...&start=40&sa=N

    And these are only a few examples of false flag advertising!

    I hope, gapingator.com is not yours, because this would be a worst case scenario if you look at the links in my post about gapingator.com from today here in this thread carefully.

    The whole thing is suspicious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer View Post
    How did you found this scout.ge ? Just searching net, as usually?
    I got an email with a tip.

    Leopold
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    You are indeed the sleuth Leopold!

    To be honest I think this is a major problem since the hacker/s have been using this same tactic for a quite some time now and seems to be all over the show. Thing is, if this issue is not brought to the attention of the affiliate programs in question how else do they pick it up? Or do they just simply ignore it and cash in while it lasts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cass View Post

    To be honest I think this is a major problem since the hacker/s have been using this same tactic for a quite some time now and seems to be all over the show. Thing is, if this issue is not brought to the attention of the affiliate programs in question how else do they pick it up? Or do they just simply ignore it and cash in while it lasts?

    from casinomeister forum

    It's a no brainer - fraudsters can cost the casinos serious money - degenerate affiliates can actually increase the traffic flow. This is (IMO) why a number of affiliate programs are reluctant to take action against against those who are using unorthodox or unethical means to gain traffic. Bottom line is that when one complains about unethical business practices, you'll get a lot of lip service - but the cash-flow overrides good business sense and propriety.
    that is the whole picture of money hungry, lying, cheating and all other things the world of crime does in our industry

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    Thank you Leopold for this info.
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    Leopold,

    we are for fair game and don't tolerate hacking, spamming and other blackhat activity.
    As for the scout.ge webmaster, we apply the most stringent measures.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung View Post
    Oh, -if the .co domain is yours- then you have really a big problem, because if you read my post (https://www.gpwa.org/forum/affiliate...tml#post772284) in full, then you know, that your webmaster from scout.ge is not kosher.

    Examples?

    Working under false flag:

    Europa Casino promotion will be redirected to your Casino: https://www.google.de/search?client=...est&gws_rd=ssl

    Winner Casino promotion will be redirectd to gapingator.com and after it to your Casino: https://www.google.de/search?q=site%....0.1RRyNdLvIhc

    Long Harbour Casino promotion will be redirected to gapingator.com and after it to your Casino: https://www.google.de/search?q=site%...Asite:SCOUT.GE

    Betsson Casino will be redirected to gapingator.com and after it to your Casino: https://www.google.de/search?q=site:...&start=40&sa=N

    And these are only a few examples of false flag advertising!

    I hope, gapingator.com is not yours, because this would be a worst case scenario if you look at the links in my post about gapingator.com from today here in this thread carefully.

    The whole thing is suspicious!

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    I got an email with a tip.

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    SCOUT.GE
    A sober analysis of a suspicious domain

    "we [...] don't tolerate [...] blackhat activity. [...] As for the scout.ge webmaster, we apply the most stringent measures."

    Really?

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    The webmaster of the suspicious domain is hiding the content of his pages.

    Suspicious?

    Yes.

    The domain SCOUT.GE was reported by @cass as suspicious here on GPWA and also by other people via email to me. So there is nothing wrong with a closer look.

    The system of Scout.GE: A few moments after any page of the domain is loaded the visitor will be forcibly redirected to Crystal Casino. You have no chance to look behind the curtains.

    But there is an opportunity to stop the clock: You have to watch the site with the eyes of a search engine crawler!

    Look closely at the real (!) content!

    I will give you an example with one of the sites of Scout.GE: scout.ge/flash/slots/Bonusse-Codes-für-Casino-Titan/1


    Click on the link to see the real (!) content of the website, the dark side of Moon:

    ===> http://tools.seochat.com/tools/searc...&submit=Spider

    You see title, description but also the spidered content ...

    Scroll down the page!


    twitter.com/_NoDepositBonus

    facebook.com/Online.Casino.No.Deposit.Bonus

    plus.google.com/+Thebigfreechiplist (dead site)

    All 3 outgoing links are the origin of thebigfreechiplist.com.

    Decide yourself if this is white hat.

    I have no idea, why the whole domain and content and in this way search engine snippets are overlapped by a
    forcibly Cristal Casino redirection, but for every question there is an answer.

    Again: This was a sober analysis of SCOUT.GE!

    Leopold

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