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    The example:

    1.) I have idea to create my next site for Chinese traffic.

    2.) But i am newbie on this market and i need advices. So i create thread
    https://www.gpwa.org/forum/affiliate...ic-222098.html

    3.) At this forum we have many aff.program who work on Chinese market.

    4.) We have tonns of aff.managers and head of affiliate departments at this forum.

    5.) But nobody from aff.managers replay in my thread. Only another affiliates give me advice.
    But affiliates do this for free. Aff.managers get salary from their bosses. They must find new affiliates.
    I would like to be new affiliate. I try to find aff.program. So, where is aff.managers?

    I tell you where most of these aff.managers. Somewhere outside GPWA forum. They aff.programs pay very big money
    for listing on the GPWA. But aff.managers (not all, but many) don't visit forum, don't check threads e.t.c. This is very strange for me.
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    Here's the thing. It's cheaper to hire new managers, that will go through a basic training, than to get some old timer, who's very experienced and knows his stuff. They don't even have to have a background in gambling or websites or anything. You can be a ski instructor and then be an affiliate manager the next day.

    A good Aff Manager knows, you are the "landlord of this virtual space" and they are the people that are renting a space in exchange for something. The second they forget that and start making demands, feel free to kick them out. Friendly suggestions and advices are welcome, but after all it's you that decides how to run your business, whether successful or not.

    I talk to my managers and to anyone on the internet, as I would talk to them face to face. As for the example you gave, why not link the thread to the brand? Sometimes you have to lead them to it, cause they might have other things on their mind, etc.
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    Affiliate Manager representing scratch card games brands like Karamba, Scratch2Cash and Hopa do not want to pay me and sending me idiotic emails to increase traffic to their sites.
    This is the finesse art of communication I have experienced with AM

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    Hello Moonlight Cat,

    "But aff.managers (not all, but many) don't visit forum, don't check threads"

    some answers you will find in an open list I wrote on November last year:

    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung
    The truth is, that

    -the jobs in this industry are anything but simple tasks.
    -representatives like Maria or Renee, who are always been in a good mood, are the minority.
    -a handful of rich men have control over the online casino industry.
    -a lot of program employees are underpaid and will be assessed only by the appearance or short-term results and not by character traits or great foresight in discerning the potential of new ways in cooperation with webmasters.
    -not only players and webmasters ... also program employees in this industry have to fear ...
    Full source: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/leopolds-...tml#post772877

    Affiliate manager who must work with a bounty system are doing a very hard job. They work under an intense pressure and a lot of them leaves the industry forever with a lot of anger in stomach.

    I am on your side, if an affiliate manager or representative is listed here on GPWA, then they have to answer questions or have to reply to concerns in the program area, but only in the program area. There is no need or force for any affiliate manager or representative to read or write outside of their program area and only a few are doing this. This is very nice but you can't expect that from all.

    Don't forgot, that also in the casino companies there is a hierarchy within the affiliate managers. Who is sitting at the end of the food chain is doing a real hard job to survive.

    I will not go into details but affiliate mangers have to fear for they money as webmaster do because a lot of contracts between affiliate managers and programs have the same value [in real life] as some contracts between webmaster and program:

    ZERO

    You can use it as drawer paper.

    "managers (not all, but many) don't visit forum, don't check threads""

    They have no longer energy.

    Leopold
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight Cat View Post
    The example:
    5.) But nobody from aff.managers replay in my thread. Only another affiliates give me advice.
    But affiliates do this for free. Aff.managers get salary from their bosses. They must find new affiliates.
    I would like to be new affiliate. I try to find aff.program. So, where is aff.managers?

    I tell you where most of these aff.managers. Somewhere outside GPWA forum. They aff.programs pay very big money
    for listing on the GPWA. But aff.managers (not all, but many) don't visit forum, don't check threads e.t.c. This is very strange for me.
    Hey Moonlight Cat,

    In some threads of this type, it's by default understood that you are asking other affiliates what works for them and affiliate managers feel improper to self promote. (i know i would feel this way and probably wouldn't reply publicly - although i would drop you an email if it was relevant)

    I think that in your thread regarding Chinese traffic, you should add a line "Affiliate managers welcome to chip in" - not sure how many Chinese programs are here on the forum, but it might make a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer View Post
    Affiliate Manager representing scratch card games brands like Karamba, Scratch2Cash and Hopa do not want to pay me and sending me idiotic emails to increase traffic to their sites.
    This is the finesse art of communication I have experienced with AM
    What reason do they give to not pay?

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