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    I have made maybe 5 statements about the whole cardspike saga, my latest was about how I dropped absolute slots because I don't trust Effective Media to pay their affiliates which I believe is a fair statement since they are not paying cardspike affiliates and they don't have the balls to say anything to affiliates and just leave them hanging. Like I really want to work with a company that has payment issues and doesn't respect their affiliates. I treat this no differently than I would any other program that has payment issues or ignores affiliates.

    If they had half a brain they would have nipped this whole cardspike thing in the bud when it first came to out. "Your right guys, we run the cardspike and absolute slots affiliate programs. We know there are some payment issues but you can count on CAP and company to do right by affiliates and we will make sure everyone is paid every last dime." Then they could have addressed the absolute slots exposure deal on the forums so there are no conflicts of interest and case closed, no biggie. But nooooo, they would rather lie and hide like little girls when in all seriousness the truth would have served them better.

    I can't believe they banned me because I said I don't want to do business with a company that has a history of payment issues which is exactly what the deal is them. It's an honest statement. Fuckin losers. You guys deserve to fail, your a bunch of little scared girls that can't face the music or your too stupid to do so.

    Anyway, I was bonusgeek over there before they took away my posting and private message access, so if anyone needs to contact me please do so here. And to professor and company, I really feel sorry for you guys. But I will hand it to you Prof, you sure know how to *** up a good thing einsteen.

    Now you make me question what else your going to take away from me. Are you going to start skimming my revenue share from my absoluteslots affiliate account? Before I didn't think so, but if your going to ban for for an honest and fair statement like that I really question how far you guys will go because you don't agree with my views.

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    I think CAP is doing some affiliate pruning again. Get rid of some aged branches and grow some new trees.

    In any case, welcome to be in a league all their own!

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    Are you going to start skimming my revenue share from my absoluteslots affiliate account?
    Interesting, well I did drop Brightshare and Wagershare suspecting something was up. Not finger pointing but since going private my earnings are up.



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    I am proud to be over here Greek. This forum is a class act and I am proud to be a part of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by greek39 View Post
    I think CAP is doing some affiliate pruning again. Get rid of some aged branches and grow some new trees.

    In any case, welcome to be in a league all their own!

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    Interesting, well I did drop Brightshare and Wagershare suspecting something was up. Not finger pointing but since going private my earnings are up.



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    Welcome to GPWA offyourface!

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    Interesting, well I did drop Brightshare and Wagershare suspecting something was up. Not finger pointing but since going private my earnings are up.
    Greek--it is one thing to be upset with CAP, but it's another thing entirely to make statements like this. Obviously, this is pretty inflamatory stuff you're putting out and it's certainly the way rumours get started. I can't imagine that either Brightshare or Wagershare (both highly reputable) would be 'skimming' from you or others.

    Do you have any sort of absolute proof to back this stuff up???

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    Do you know that it is not true? CAP is not exactly truthful.

    absolute proof to back this stuff up
    This stuff? absolute proof? Yeah I do go check my stats and explain after three years of front page exposure I made $20 in earnings. Convince me!

    BTW: I suspected but was not sure giving me doubt. It was easier to scrap the program rather than babysit my stats.

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    i smell more collataral damage coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betpartners View Post
    i smell more collataral damage coming
    LOL

    Look, Affiliate Managers need to understand that affilates have been beaten up at cap for years now. Yes, threats have been made to affs, bannings are just the surface.

    Please try to understand the anger. We are the affiliates. That is what the fuss is all about? That is why these forums exist? Even if it is hard to listen to I hope some, in fact, listen to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo View Post
    LOL

    Look, Affiliate Managers need to understand that affilates have been beaten up at cap for years now. Yes, threats have been made to affs, bannings are just the surface.

    Please try to understand the anger. We are the affiliates. That is what the fuss is all about? That is why these forums exist? Even if it is hard to listen to I hope some, in fact, listen to us.
    Mojo i was refering to Greek39 and djsilver not CAP

    I am also an affiliate although not as big and not in casino/poker as such more sportsbook and more advertising, but nonetheless i am an affiliate also and i ahve the same concerns.

    See my turn to word things wrong

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    Let me make something clear so there is no misunderstanding. Absolute slots has always paid me like clockwork and I have no reason to believe they are skimming or doing anything shady. They have actually performed better than my other rival programs so I wasn't exactly thrilled to drop them.

    But after CAP banned me for making a simple and valid statement, it gives me pause when one of the companies they are in bed with owe me money. I just would not put anything past CAP or their other companies, I think they have earned that with the way they handled all these problems surrounding Effective Media and CAP.

    I just wanted to make sure there was any misunderstanding here. As much as I dislike the guys over at CAP, I will still try to be fair about all this even though I don't feel like they are showing me the same courtesy. I did not say AbsoluteSlots was skimming, only that I hope they would not do that to me since it appears they have a problem with me.

    Greek, that is a little unfair to bring brightshare and wagershare in this thread just because they have not earned you anything. I hope you learned a lesson not to give any program prime exposure for 3 years who is not performing for you. I would think a couple months of no earnings would be enough to try another casino in that spot. Lets try to be fair though.

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    Let me make something clear so there is no misunderstanding. Absolute slots has always paid me like clockwork and I have no reason to believe they are skimming or doing anything shady. They have actually performed better than my other rival programs so I wasn't exactly thrilled to drop them.
    I am glad you said this because they are my top performing Rival as well I have not dropped them I have cut back and only because my affiliate manger Elliott is no longer there. They have always paid me on time and players are extremely happy.


    This stuff? absolute proof? Yeah I do go check my stats and explain after three years of front page exposure I made $20 in earnings. Convince me!

    BTW: I suspected but was not sure giving me doubt. It was easier to scrap the program rather than babysit my stats.

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    REALLY?? Of course it is the programs fault it would never be your fault or say googles fault or lack of traffic it has to be the 2 most respected programs out there are scamming.... all I can do is say WOW! You really should have some sort of proof before you go making them kind of actuations Greek.

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    Greek, that is a little unfair to bring brightshare and wagershare in this thread just because they have not earned you anything.
    I agree my apologies I admit this is indeed unfair.

    Hey bonustreak you little CAP droid you, I am pleased I finally gave you something to chew on. BTW bonustreak what do think of GP now... pretty reputable program aren't they? It took two years to acknowledge what this program was up to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by offyourface View Post
    I can't believe they banned me because I said I don't want to do business with a company that has a history of payment issues which is exactly what the deal is them. It's an honest statement.

    Now you make me question what else your going to take away from me. Are you going to start skimming my revenue share from my absoluteslots affiliate account? Before I didn't think so, but if your going to ban for for an honest and fair statement like that I really question how far you guys will go because you don't agree with my views.
    I thought they had agreed to not do that sort of thing any more? Uh oh and I trusted them and started a happy crusade on their behalf? I guess I will have to turn my smile upside down and put on a frown today! I am so disappointed - they showed so much promise.

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    It's really hard to swallow it that CAP continuously banned members' account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greek39 View Post
    Hey bonustreak you little CAP droid you, I am pleased I finally gave you something to chew on.

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    Huh?

    What's with the hostility?

    That's exactly what this should NOT turn into, affiliates split down the middle with CAP members wearing a blue cross on their forehead and GPWA affiliates a purple one.

    Bonusstreak made a valid comment, often it is the type traffic that causes one affiliate to do well with a given program and another affiliate can't give them away.

    It happens all the time, and it has to do with tons of things. Every site attracts a certain type of visitor, depending on how info is presented, what type promos are carried, what keywords are ranking and down to the color scheme.

    Just because a program doesn't work for one person today, doesn't mean they don't work for another, or at another point in time when promos are changed.

    Anyway, Greek, please don't be attacking fellow affiliates!

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    Start this forum

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    sorry just trying to make thing a little lighter, but yeah, sorry for your banning

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    If it makes you feel better to call me names then go for it Greek and to be fair my comment was defending the programs Wagershare and Brightshare at question not CAP.

    GP since you did do some research please go a bit futher back and you will find darling that I am the one that called them out more then once and going back as far as 06, thanks

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    REALLY?? Of course it is the programs fault it would never be your fault or say googles fault or lack of traffic it has to be the 2 most respected programs out there are scamming.... all I can do is say WOW! You really should have some sort of proof before you go making them kind of actuations Greek.
    The post was hostile in nature so was the intent. Aside from that I fail to positively accept such statements coming from CAP Droids.

    So excuse me.

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    edited, sorry... nvm

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    Quote Originally Posted by greek39 View Post
    The post was hostile in nature so was the intent. Aside from that I fail to positively accept such statements coming from CAP Droids.
    In my opinion, this is not the time or the place to be creating wedges between fellow affiliates. As affiliates we need to be working together for our overall good.

    And with the changes going on in the forum world these days, the last thing in the world we need is a situation where we do not welcome folks here even in situations where there are differences of opinion.

    And, I also think is is completely wrong to try to denegrade someone participating here when they support a program or programs that are generally well respected with respected affiliate program managers.

    I try to have this forum run in a way that lets folks speak their minds. But please, let's do that in a way that we respect one another.

    Is that too much to ask?

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