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**mojo** · 26 July 2009, 2:45 pm

Originally Posted by Gamble Stop

I would suggest GPWA maybe contacting this person to try and resolve this matter or remove his private membership.

Thanks Gamble Stop. I think we all tried to help. Just so there isn't a misunderstanding, the GPWA did step in and tried very hard to resolve it. I think that because it's the weekend and everyone is sooooo busy that this will take some time.

I now formally request that Mainstreet Group become involved in this as I am sure that they have already had a few complaints about this particular domain.

Nice post Rick. I did pm Jason from Mainstreet to give him a heads up that he may be receiving some reports and also to report mine. He was very receptive and willing to help. I'm sure he will have no problem stopping by here.

**giggles7p** · 26 July 2009, 3:54 pm

Unbelievable.

To Mojo, Robin, Rick, and everyone else that has been effected by this "virus" i am so sorry for the lack of respect for your hard work. I for one would be happy to sign a "petition" if needed to present to GPWA requesting removal of private membership. I am a private member and do not want to be associated in that section with someone i can not trust or respect.

End of discussion.

Pat

**lots0** · 27 July 2009, 11:58 am

I know this suggestion comes a little late...

But for those of you that are concerned about your site getting scrapped and content stolen...

You might want to take a little time and learn about blocking the scrappers from your sites.

Don't sit back and be a victim, be proactive.

There are several ways that work fairly well, although nothing is going to stop 100% of the site scraping, but with a little diligence you can stop well over 98% of it.

One of the most important things is not to be afraid to block any user that acts like a scraper... because if it acts like a scraper... it is a scraper. Very few humans can read a web page every second or so.

In my opinion the only bots most webmasters should even allow on their sites at all are the bots from the big search engines. All the rest of the bots are mostly just sucking off(scraping) your hard earned content.

**GamTrak** · 27 July 2009, 12:35 pm

Can you provide some links or more information on how to protect ourselves please? It's hard to figure out what infomation on the net is reliable and what is crap (no pun intended)!

Thanks

Originally Posted by lots0

I know this suggestion comes a little late...

But for those of you that are concerned about your site getting scrapped and content stolen...

You might want to take a little time and learn about blocking the scrappers from your sites.

Don't sit back and be a victim, be proactive.

There are several ways that work fairly well, although nothing is going to stop 100% of the site scraping, but with a little diligence you can stop well over 98% of it.

One of the most important things is not to be afraid to block any user that acts like a scraper... because if it acts like a scraper... it is a scraper. Very few humans can read a web page every second or so.

In my opinion the only bots most webmasters should even allow on their sites at all are the bots from the big search engines. All the rest of the bots are mostly just sucking off(scraping) your hard earned content.

**lots0** · 28 July 2009, 1:03 am

I don't really know of any links to specific info about blocking bots that are any good. One reason I think that there is not a lot of specific public information about blocking bots is... If you tell tell the people designing the scraper bots how you are blocking them... chances are you WON'T be blocking them for long.

I started blocking bots years ago, before scrapers were a problem and before robots.txt was the standard. My main concern back then was bandwidth. Bandwidth used to be super expensive(remember when the isp's used to charge for Internet access by the minute) and all the extraneous bots were costing me big money. So I needed a way to block them and I have been developing the methods since then.

I use several different methods (htaccess, php, pearl and robots.txt) all in a coordinated effort to stop unwanted visitors. Some of it is fairly complex coding.

Most of the scrapers in our business are operated by script kiddies or as I like to call them...fuckingmorons, so they are fairly easy to block using htaccess mod rewrite(yup it does more than make pretty URL's) and robots.txt.

**Renee** · 28 July 2009, 1:24 am

After seeing lots0 post I thought this might be helpful for spam bots: http://www.projecthoneypot.org/

Cheers

**lots0** · 28 July 2009, 1:40 am

Thanks Renee,

Project Honey Pot is a very cool thing, I totally forgot about it.

The last time I looked at them they mostly dealt with the scraping after the fact. I like to stop the scraping as fast as I can, before my stuff is spread all over the web... Not to mention that just blocking IP's is ineffective in stopping scrappers.

We might want to start a separate thread about this or talk one of the mods into splitting this discussion about blocking bots off into it's own thread.

**GamTrak** · 28 July 2009, 8:28 am

Originally Posted by lots0

We might want to start a separate thread about this or talk one of the mods into splitting this discussion about blocking bots off into it's own thread.

Yes, can an admin please do this split so that we discuss it and find ways to protect ourselves as best we can from the spammer bots.

Thanks for that link Renee!

**lots0** · 28 July 2009, 5:36 pm

I knew I should not have written anything in this public forum.

After writing about blocking bad bots.. the site listed in my profile is being hit by so many bad bots today that is almost a DoS attack.

Some real scumbags read this forum. Don't expect any more info from me.

**GamTrak** · 28 July 2009, 5:45 pm

I hear ya. It use to happen to me a lot when I was at CAP, they would hit my Vbulletin and keep me at the forum fighting for the better part of a day. I've even had to close my forum before. What scumbags!

I'm not sure what an attack at my web portal would look like and that may be a good thing because I'd be fuming if it happened to me.

Originally Posted by lots0

I knew I should not have written anything in this public forum.

After writing about blocking bad bots.. the site listed in my profile is being hit by so many bad bots today that is almost a DoS attack.

Some real scumbags read this forum. Don't expect any more info from me.

**rmeeuwsen** · 4 August 2009, 1:00 am

Here is one example of what I 'supposedly' still have my site

google === site:casinoonlinegaming.com gamtrak

The first item listed comes up with

"http://www.casinoonlinegaming.com/2009/01/sun-palace-casino-sun-palace-casino-gamtrak-forum/"

Follow that link = The top of your browser for that page will say 'nothing found" and it will display my default 404.htm file for missing pages

Now, go back to google and click on the 'cached' link - it will take you to what google had cached on Jun 19, 2009

Now use something like this for your url

"http://www.casinoonlinegaming.com/whateverelseyouwanttotypehere"

The same 'nothing found' page will show up because it is the default 404.htm

Google will stop listing the old removed "http://www.casinoonlinegaming.com/2009/01/sun-palace-casino-sun-palace-casino-gamtrak-forum/" page when they index my site!!!!

**pdjoe** · 4 August 2009, 2:27 am

You are such a thief it's not even funny.

**Anthony** · 4 August 2009, 3:52 am

Guys lets not get into it.
Michael will address this when he returns.

**GamTrak** · 4 August 2009, 7:49 am

Yes Sir Sherrif!

I will not make anymore replies for now.

Originally Posted by APCW Anthony

Guys lets not get into it.
Michael will address this when he returns.

**bonustreak** · 4 August 2009, 10:50 am

rmeeuwsen I am asking you to remove any references to Winning Streak, Streak Gaming and any of my other sites from your site asap!!

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