Another Affiliate manager warning

[davemerry]

Hi guys,

I just got the following email from walter@casinochoice.eu:

Dear Sir or Madam

I am running trial listings for new casino, poker, and bingo brands on CasinoChoice.co.uk. Trials will include brand review, banner space, and player sign-ups. If you're interested in listing your brand please reply with your url and company details. I have a limited number of positions, and I can only accept brands that are available to UK residents and have a European license to operate.

Best Regards,

Walter Chisholm
Mandalay Media Ltd.
Trafalgar House, 23 Nelson Street, Douglas, Isle of Man
Mobile: +442032862776
Email: walter@casinochoice.eu
Skype: walter.chisholm

(logo)

I'm sure I don't need to tell you that casinochoice.co.uk are one of the UK's largest affiliate brands and certainly wouldn't be approaching partners like this, especially through a .eu email. Therefore I am 99.999% sure that this is a scam.

I have contacted them already to let them know.

Stay safe

Dave M

[Gabriel_LCP]

Thanks for the heads up Dave!

[Former Member 14]

Hi All,

If you take a peak at this Google cache page (view right hand box 4'th down - Other Extension Domains).
You'll see casinochoice.eu was available for purchase on the 2'nd of July 2011.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...www.google.com

casinochoice.eu
Registered 5 July, 2011
Expiry Date 31 July, 2012

I'll PM you the whois details Dave...




Cheers



Dave (the other Dave M)

[casinochoice]

This is not a scam davemerry. I used a mailer to contact affiliates and I guess I shouldn't have. Sorry about that all.

[Jamie - RateMyCasino]

This is not a scam davemerry. I used a mailer to contact affiliates and I guess I shouldn't have. Sorry about that all.

Any reason why you chose a site name exactly like the .co.uk one? Unless you own the .co.uk site, I would be thinking you are just trying to tail ride another site.

My apologies if you own the .co.uk one. But obviously when registering the domain you done a search and saw there was another affiliate using this name.

[Former Member 14]

Good post Jamie!

Further more it seems rather odd an email is sent with these credentials:

Walter Chisholm
Mandalay Media Ltd.
Trafalgar House, 23 Nelson Street, Douglas, Isle of Man
Mobile: +442032862776
Email: walter@casinochoice.eu
Skype: walter.chisholm

But the whois data for casinochoice.eu returns this:
How to dispute this registration
Registered 5 July, 2011
Expiry Date 31 July, 2012
Last update 5 July, 2011, 6:33 pm
Registrant
Name Jonah Brackenridge
Organisation Immersion
Language English
Address



Phone
Fax
Email
Registrant technical contacts
Name Jonah Brackenridge
Organisation Immersion
Language English
Address



Phone
Fax
Email
Registrar
Organisation Go Daddy Software, Inc.
Website www.godaddy.com
Name servers
ns78.domaincontrol.com
ns77.domaincontrol.com

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Compared to casinochoice.co.uk whois:

Domain name:
casinochoice.co.uk

Registrant:
Mandalay Media Ltd

Registrant type:
Non-UK Corporation

Registrant's address:
Mandalay Media Ltd, Trafalgar House, 25 Nelson Street Douglas
Isle of Man
Isle of Man
IM1 2AN
United Kingdom

Registrar:
Webfusion Ltd t/a 123-reg [Tag = 123-REG]
URL: http://www.123-reg.co.uk

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 21-Aug-2001
Renewal date: 21-Aug-2013
Last updated: 25-Jun-2011

Registration status:
Renewal request being processed.

Name servers:
ns.rackspace.com
ns2.rackspace.com

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Over and above this information it, seems rather odd Mandalay Media Ltd would register casinochoice.eu on the 5 July, 2011 BUT only do so for 12 months and then send out the OP mailer a few days later. Not to mention host casinochoice.eu at godaddy when they (Mandalay Media Ltd) have their own servers.

Further more...I find it highly unlikey if not totally out of professional character for Mandalay Media Ltd (the owners of casinochoice.co.uk) to use a free wordpress theme with theme design sponsor links in their global footer:

xxxhttp://www.shortpeopleclub.com
xxxhttp://www.mechanicalengineerjobs.org/michigan-mechanical_engineer-jobs/
xxxhttp://www.dietitianjobs.net/california-dietitian-jobs

Even more unlikely have yet another link pointing to an online dating site...
xxxhttp://www.over50onlinedating.com/local/over-50-chat?re=home

My guess the email the OP received IS, a scam!

[Webzcas]

If Richard who owns Casino Choice has authorised this, it would be good for someone who is in touch with him, to get him to validate that casinochoice.eu is indeed his site.

However this seems very similar to the scam run by the same guys that set up onlineScasinoreviewer.com, pretending to represent my site www.onlinecasinoreviewer.com

Particularly as the mailer that Dave posted, shows the person who wrote it is touting for business for casinochoice.co.uk. I doubt very very very much Richard would ever need to send out mailshots to get business. But apologies if I am wrong.

Poker Listings have also been targetted by this type of scam

[skelhorn]

Hi All,

I have received a number of emails regarding this thread. Clearly this company is passing off as Mandalay. The .eu is not something we are associated with and this issue will be put in the hands of legal counsel tomorrow.

I cannot believe they will actually gain anything from this however. Offering to sell CPA deals on a website (casinochoice.co.uk) you have no control over has to be one of the worst business ideas ever conceived.

Thanks for the head up,
Richard Skelhorn

[TheBoyMitchell]

This is not a scam davemerry. I used a mailer to contact affiliates and I guess I shouldn't have. Sorry about that all.

You've got balls, I'll give you that.

[casinochoice]

I don't appreciate you posting personal emails on a public forum! If you are not interested in being listed please reply "STOP" and you will not receive any further contact. I'm new in this business and am still trying to figure everything out. Give me a break.

[Webzcas]

Of all the portals you have tried to represent as part of your scam, you have probably picked the worst one possible for you.

Enjoy court

[Jamie - RateMyCasino]

I don't appreciate you posting personal emails on a public forum! If you are not interested in being listed please reply "STOP" and you will not receive any further contact. I'm new in this business and am still trying to figure everything out. Give me a break.

Stop trying to scam people. The e-mail you are sending out is misleading and so is your site. If your new to the industry i would heed the advice here because almost all casino programs are part of this community. The ones you are sending your mailings too.

I would reconsider your position here. Instead of crying poor me do the right thing and choose another name. That is what most affiliates in this industry would do. Well ethical ones anyway!

I don't appreciate you posting personal emails on a public forum!

That is public information displayed on your sites whois information. Which anyone is entitled to read.

[davemerry]

I don't appreciate you posting personal emails on a public forum! If you are not interested in being listed please reply "STOP" and you will not receive any further contact. I'm new in this business and am still trying to figure everything out. Give me a break.

Strange you should say that, considering in the email you have sent me the signature included 'Mandalay Media Ltd', their business address and also the casinochoice.co.uk logo. The .eu also redirected to the .co.uk site.

Your either a scammer or possibly one of the worst webmasters of all time. I know where my bets are placed....

[casinochoice]

There is nothing unethical about using a dunning name davemerry. I will remove your email address from my mailing list. Good luck with Castle.

[Smoking]

I will remove your email address from my mailing list.

Remove mine also !

[universal4]

Remove mine also.....

Where did you get the list of emails that you are mailing to anyway?

Why were they added to a list without permission?

Rick
Universal4

[Jamie - RateMyCasino]

There is nothing unethical about using a dunning name davemerry. I will remove your email address from my mailing list. Good luck with Castle.

It is unethical, and you will see just the sort of response you will get when casinos see this thread and your response. Good luck because your going to need it.

[skelhorn]

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/wuvy4Wp1RFoErj9-Wmlv7w?feat=directlink"]https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/wuvy4Wp1RFoErj9-Wmlv7w?feat=directlink

Interesting deal from our scamming friend here. You pay him £2000 for a 'featured position' and you have to send you're money off to his Pittsburgh account before he sends you a player. But don't worry you are guaranteed 50 players after you do that from twistbox entertainment, or no wait a minute... MM ltd?! I'm guessing thats supposed to be me then. ( Mandalay Media? ).

I actually spoke to this clown and he claimed he was Mandalay Media LLC not LTD registered at the same address. And of course he swerved questions regarding the use of my trademarked logo and then asked me for business advice!

I hope you have a good lawyer 'Walter'.

[Jamie - RateMyCasino]

Going to add him to our blacklisted and unethical webmaster section. My advice would be the more people to expose the harder it will be for him to find casinos to work with him. Someone should also contact the companies registrar in his country and report him for conducting unethical business practices. Also contact his hosting and domain provider.

Look at his domain. Who in there right mind would pay to go on this anyway xxhttp://www.casinochoice.eu/

I am going to start to look more indepth and see what other websites he owns.

Can the title of this thread be edited to add his name and business name by any chance that way Google will pick it up better.

[alexpratt]

Looking at the photo its the same guys that did this to PokerListings and a load of others...At that time their bank wire info was

Wacholvia, Routing #: 031000503, Account #:200005881, Swift Code: PNBPUS33

And contact used was Elton Sandoval [mailto:elton@pokerslistings.com] (see extra s after poker)

They have done this to several companies now - very annoying!