Climate change - what's your view?

[allfreechips]

Hopefully views will be altered when we have this same discussion in 20 more years once again but until then keep an open mind, follow the money and know people will lie to your face for power.

[Big City Jack]

Weird, it's as if my comment yesterday didn't even occur. Even stupid idiotic comments deploying the oft used tool of the "conspiracy theory" trump card would be better than that.

Anyone who hasn't learned just in the last few years alone, let alone before then, that scientists and doctors, "journalists" and "the media," and "the science" and "consensus" can be bought, controlled, threatened, coerced and intimidated just as easily as politicians can be and are has been living under a rock and is incomprehensibly uninformed.

Anyone who is not aware of the extent to which it has been exposed and demonstrated how we have been lied to on a scale one can scarcely comprehend, in some cases even admitted no less - most especially during the recent several years of "covid" - is living under a rock and incomprehensibly uninformed. And most especially with "the science" and the "consensus."

Anyone who relies on only mainstream media for news and truth is incomprehensibly uninformed, under-informed, and living under a rock - right where the "ruling class" and whatever else one can rightly call them have placed you and invested so many years and resources in placing and keeping you there.

Like I said yesterday - at this point in our history, either get on X if you are not already, or if you are then step out of any ideological, pleasure based or business and marketing related echo chamber bubble you may possibly be operating in there, and you can finally be exposed to real truth, real science and real journalism about this topic and many others in a highly efficient way. It's certainly not that truth and real journalism cannot be found in other good sources, just that X is now the most streamlined, comprehensive and efficient means, and the only major platform of its kind and scope. Even despite that censorship still exists there and that even Musk himself apparently believes in the "climate" fraud. Of course that's not surprising since it's part of his business interests to do so. And that reminds me - anyone who is not yet aware of the vast almost incomprehensible extent to which censorship and suppression of truth and dissenting views has been taking place is also incomprehensibly uninformed and out of touch with reality. Even Musk himself exposed that in such a spectacular way.

Well I could say more, but this isn't exactly my first rodeo, and I'm sure we can all relate to how time is limited.

[allfreechips]

Problem we all face is people will go to any extent to not admit they were taken for a ride, no matter how obvious it is. I gave up a long time ago on people that fall into that category.

[Big City Jack]

Excellent point, yes indeed so true, and so much an integral part of the problem too.

Problem we all face is people will go to any extent to not admit they were taken for a ride, no matter how obvious it is. I gave up a long time ago on people that fall into that category.

[mickyfu]

Hopefully views will be altered when we have this same discussion in 20 more years once again but until then keep an open mind, follow the money and know people will lie to your face for power.

I guess people will just use nonsense like "prove that this was said 20 years ago". Where is your evidence? It is all rather silly now, best left alone. But I guarantee anyone, the goal posts will be moved again within the next 15 years.

[Big City Jack]

Another great point. And from what I've seen, I'm thinking more like *at least* once a year give or take for those moving goal posts.

That part about "prove that this was said 20 years ago" even reminds me of something, what could that be I wonder, oh yes, denying having claimed and pushed on the public that the so-called "vaccines" (they are not that, another lie, but changing the definition was a nice trick too) would prevent both infection and transmission, only to have the incontrovertible video and other evidence demonstrate what a huge bizarre Twilight Zone style lie that is (as in, falsehood, mendacity, pants on five alarm fire), just within the past few years no less...

I guess people will just use nonsense like "prove that this was said 20 years ago". Where is your evidence? It is all rather silly now, best left alone. But I guarantee anyone, the goal posts will be moved again within the next 15 years.

[Katharina Hahn]

My opinion is that global warming is real and can threaten us in the long run. I can literally feel that the winters are not as cold anymore and the summers are very hot. However, I believe that we are now more threatened by the possibility of a Third World War than by the consequences of global warming.