Considering Black Hat SEO pls advise

[GCG]

Hi guys

this will be the next adventure as there has been a landslide of new members here asking questions how to rank do 301s etc.

Old white hat methods are not "popular/cost effective" anymore for these youngsters that want to "live the good life" without having to work hard for it.

Being on sunny island with 10+ chicks that give you drinks and what not.

Are you considering to become less honest ?

[igamingnuts]

Im avoiding black hat seo as it's counter-productive in long term. If google webspam team find out what you are doing, it's easy to get penalty and the whole work is in vain. If you want to try black hat seo do not use it on your main website. Try with brand new site or the the one with small traffic. If it works that's good for you but prepare that this can be only temporary success.

[Paul_]

The whole Black hat / White hat debate is a bit nonsense. According to Google's own guidelines building any sort of linkbuilding is considered 'blackhat' (they say it in different words).

[lowrisk]

You'll rank well for at least 2.3 minutes befor Google comes down on you like a six tonne sack of crap! Then it's game over, no refunds, no insert coin

[casaffiliate]

It has been a while since I've seen sites spamming their way to the top for the biggest keywords. Anybody remember this?
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Most new sites that go the pure blackhat route make it to page 3 or 4 for the bigger keywords but they fail to crack the first page. After a while they completely disappear. Google seems to be quite good with denying those sites top rankings. At least that's what I'm observing.

Then again ... looking at the link profiles of some sites that rank for money keywords, I feel like it's pre 2012 all over again. Link buying on unrelated sites so obvious that even my grandmother could detect it. Throw in some massive PBN's and voilà ... apparently you can still rank for monster keywords by using methods that couldn't possibly survive a manual review. But this only seems to work for sites that have aged quite a bit and have managed to stay under the radar.

For new sites ... Google's main weapon seems to be ranking delay .. especially for niches like gambling. If your site s new in the gambling niche you can chase that "Content is king" pig around the yard as much as you want ... but you won't see any results for 6+ months.

The whole Black hat / White hat debate is a bit nonsense. According to Google's own guidelines building any sort of linkbuilding is considered 'blackhat' (they say it in different words).

Very good point and the reality is that Google can torch your site at any moment. 'Whitehat', 'blackhat', 'greyhat' or 'no hat'. So my best advice is to stay under the radar as long as possible.

So ... to reply to the initial question "Are you considering to become less honest ?". No, I still believe that slow and steady wins the race.

[sandysr]

Google has become clever at spotting black hat techniques, and once you get penalised for such, it's going to be hard to bounce back. If at all you can make a comeback. White hat methods on the other hand, are more painstaking, but absolutely necessary for ranking.

[q292u]

I've had penalties on other (non-gambling) sites simply for having sponsored posts. The sites were dropped from the rankings entirely, and only recovered after I'd removed the posts and begged Google. Even then, not straight away. Be careful.

[martinseomcgarry]

Are you looking for blackhat or cheap and easy? In the past blackhat was a cheap and effective means of ranking and it was easy! But nowadays anything cheap is going to be bad for business.

The oldstyle of blackhat as gone and even now a 'risky' link builder will charge the earth - so effective SEO is not cheap!

[legobatman]

Im avoiding black hat seo as it's counter-productive in long term. If google webspam team find out what you are doing, it's easy to get penalty and the whole work is in vain. If you want to try black hat seo do not use it on your main website. Try with brand new site or the the one with small traffic. If it works that's good for you but prepare that this can be only temporary success.

agreed. Certainly counteractive in the long run.

[sweetbet]

If you're interested in experimenting with black hat seo, do it with an experimental site that you don't care about too much.

[roulettevision]

I defeinitely don't recommend black hat SEO. Google is smart - REALLY smart. If you think you can trick it your almsot certinaly wrong, and the consequences will be severe. I agree with sweetbet, create an experimental site if you wish, but don't use it on your main site.

[Sherlock]

Hi guys

this will be the next adventure as there has been a landslide of new members here asking questions how to rank do 301s etc.

Old white hat methods are not "popular/cost effective" anymore for these youngsters that want to "live the good life" without having to work hard for it.

Being on sunny island with 10+ chicks that give you drinks and what not.

Are you considering to become less honest ?

There is nothing dishonest with "black hat SEO".

I do not do most things considered black hat, but not for some obscure morality reason, but because it did not work.

For Google most of SEO and notably linkbuilding, even white hat or grey hat, is the same. It is artificial manipulation of SERP. Even putting links to your site with the sole reason to boost your rank is not welcome by Google. (Getting genuine links because your content is interesting is something very different.)

By nature of our business, we are in disadvantage. Not so many people like to share information about new slot game... compared to amount of people who share info about new model of smartphone for example. So we webmasters simply are in a market, where we all cross the line with linkbuilding (unless we buy a traffic from someone who does it).

Creating and encouraging gamblers is not honest. After this some tricks towards Google corporation are nothing. But as I said, the only BH SEO that worked turned out for me to be more expensive than white hat (white hat = less crazy effort to manipulate results).

But if you want to try it, why not? It is your life and your risks. Law of Google is parallel law. Just do not risk more than what you can afford; like when you are breaching regular law (speeding for example).

[MMM]

agreed. Certainly counteractive in the long run.

if you plan to do one blackhat site then you are right. It is not if you build a chain of sites: 10 are up, 10 in process of getting ranking, 10 just starting and so on.

The debate on whether BH is worth it is similar to the one about Free Chip traffic. Obviously, both are worth it, otherwise no one would be doing that.

Personally, if i knew how to do BH - i would. Unfortunately, I don't.

[Progger]

I use a system to boost my serp´s without backlinks,it still works fine - since years.

Some global players use this system, werner bros,paypal,amazon...some Casinos. All others use it hidden in the background.

Regards

[PROFRBcom]

I use a system to boost my serp´s without backlinks,it still works fine - since years.

Some global players use this system, werner bros,paypal,amazon...some Casinos. All others use it hidden in the background.

Regards

OK, I will bite. Care to share publicly or privately?

[thesamurai]

I use a system to boost my serp´s without backlinks,it still works fine - since years.

Some global players use this system, werner bros,paypal,amazon...some Casinos. All others use it hidden in the background.

Regards

This sounds very interesting. Will be happy to hear this.

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[Top Online Casinos]

I use a system to boost my serp´s without backlinks,it still works fine - since years.

Some global players use this system, werner bros,paypal,amazon...some Casinos. All others use it hidden in the background.

Regards

I bet it's Ralph. Fantomaster?

[Casino Spieler]

Do you really mean Black Hat or just Crap Hat? there is huge difference
If you want to test Black Hat, pick a fresh site or buy a domain, that was not burned to the ground. Try your BH strategie and see if it succeeds. Just be sure to take the money and run, since great G will come and kick your site.