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    Hi there webmasters, long time no see. I was a gambling webmaster to few years ago also I am a member here on GPWA for a few years now still i'm out from the gambling business for now. However i get still excited when i receive my GPWA magazine and can't wait to read it every time.

    I'm here for one simple reason, since i got out from the gambling niche i was focusing more on the background part of all this marketing and SEO stuff. I am a developer, selling few tools or making some for big names over the internet. I an tell you that the best selling stuff is still the social stuff, especially Facebook related thing. We have to admit that one thing will not change and SOCIAL IS THE FUTURE.

    No I don't want to sell you anything, I don't want to mess this awesome forum with any long eye catching sell threads GPWA is unique and will be for ever. I'm just here to ask you if are here some users who promote they offers, websites on Facebook?

    Facebook offers many option and ways to get something "small and simple" to worldwide size on completely automatic and viral so hopefully here are some users to who use it.

    To get even clearer i'm her eto offer for every single member something for FREE. I don't yet know what, a software, a script, a Facebook Application or whatever but i really want to give you something back since i closed my Gambling business with success, and a part of this success comes from GPWA. And even now after closing my business I get excited every time i get the GPWA magazine and thinking more and more to get back to Gambling

    So here are few questions, let's see if there is interest for it, and if is than please allow me to share with you some unique and powerful software and script made by me.

    - Do you use Facebook in your gambling business?
    - Do you have a fan page for your website?
    - Do you like free Viral targeted traffic?
    - Are you interested in free Facebook applications that you can set up for yourself and get a huge FREE viral promotion for your website or offer?


    and the most important:

    - Do you have an idea for a Facebook application that isn't made yet but you would like to have it and use it?

    Please answer the questions above or at least some of them, or just say that "I WANT SOMETHING FOR FREE" and if there is enough interest in the next few days i'm ready to share something with you, or even to build something just for the GPWA users and share it ONLY HERE.

    Please allow me few minutes from your precious time and drop a reply if you are interested. Thank you!

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    Hello,

    i'm not at all with Facebook. My opinion: Facebook is absolute nonsense. It is a data collector machine to let facebook make money and nothing else.

    Some users will come to regret giving out so much data. Many users will be childish and stupid with Facebook, others addicted.

    You can buy "likes" as many as you want.
    You can buy "friends" as many as you want.

    It's like the Hula Hoop. All wanted. No one knew exactly why.

    We are herd animals and vulnerable to any nonsense.

    When did you, dear reader, sit together the last time with the family at a table for playing board games?

    Leopold

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    Hello Leopold,

    You are right from ONE POINT OF VIEW, since yeah MAYBE is a data collector machine, Facebook is made to make money for Facebook ok, that is cool, but should we care about if:

    1. Don't takes your or mine money and makes money from those who are "dumb" enough?
    2. You can make your own money in the time that Facebook makes his own?

    Who is "dumb" enough to share they sensitive data, do it i don't care about. I care about one fact... WORKS.

    And about the Like and friend purchase part, YES IT'S POSSIBLE and SAD for those who buy it that they are that "dumb" to do it and put money in pocket of blackhaters for nothing. That has none sent the like and friend numbers arn't good for anything, we care about one type of number, the number of INCOME of the end. Maybe i look rude to talk about it as a money making machine, but let's face it, it's made to make money for Facebook than we can use it to for the same.

    However i'm not talking about purchased likes and non sense stuff like that, i'm talking about real likes, real viral traffic, and real targeted users who really are interested about your offer or website. Forget the others, what would you like more?

    1. 100K fans for a Facebook Page that you purchased for $xxxx?
    2. 50 signups to your affiliate link that you get for FREE and you get $xxxx from the signups?

    Everything depends on the point of view. Facebook is a money making machine for Facebook and for us to. Google is the same and you still use it.. why? Because Google don't asks to share stuff on it? Yes it does, there is G+ for it and even more even your website. Your website is Google's content so Google makes money from your Website. But you care about it? No since you make your part to in the meantime.

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    Hello dassad,

    thanks for your answer.


    Quote Originally Posted by dassad View Post
    However i'm not talking about purchased likes and non sense stuff like that, i'm talking about real likes, real viral traffic, and real targeted users who really are interested about your offer or website. Forget the others, what would you like more?
    Sorry, i have my answer, unfortunately, keep it short. My poodles are already sitting in front of me and want to walk to the lake. I gotta go.



    But in terms of real visitors, etc. Please read these two articles. Especially the first one is very interesting.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mattbuchanan...cebook-traffic

    http://www.bizreport.com/2012/07/ama...mer-trust.html



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    Hey, thanks for the links dropped a look on them but didn't read it completely and i tell you why.

    1. Comes from buzzfeed. It's like an article from MySpace about Facebook. I would blame them to. Don't say that buzzfeed isn't good, it is, just don't gives me much trust if i see that someone is blaming something in one line, and than saying in the next line that they is better. No offense...

    2. I don't need to base on statistics or on data released by others since i have my own. I know what success can be arrived and i know what is the potential in it. I see it day by day from many sources.

    3. They have right, likes don't mean traffic and that is true. But check my sentence that you quoted i mention likes but also viral traffic, and real targeted users. I see fan pages that have above 300K likes and generate a traffic of 100-200 per wall post. That sucks... and even i know why, since they are not interested. This specific page is a general fan page, i can post a POODLE website ( ) probably taht there are 100-200 POODLE lovers and owners, they will visit it but others do not care. Now imagine a POODLE Fanpage, full with poodle owners and fans, let's say 10K only, if i post there a poodle link, i will get 3000-4000 visits EASILY from one post.

    I just want to say that is all about targeting people, and as i said i don't care about number of likes, i care about the revenue i make on the end. This means that i can't get 1000 visits from an 1000 likes page with one post, but i can get it from a 4-5000 likes page. I don't care about it, it's free viral traffic, even if converts only on 5% it's for FREE and for example to set up a Facebook Application takes you MAXIMUM 30 minutes even if you are noob. 30 minutes setup and forget and watch the visitors coming in.

    However all this has no sense if you can't offer real value content or product. You can't expect anything fro nothing.

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    Hello dassad,

    Now imagine a POODLE Fanpage, full with poodle owners and fans
    if I'm honest, 3 real poodles in front of me are more important for me than 1000 virtual or pics.

    If you are happy with Facebook, then I am pleased.

    My opinion is, that real people can not be replaced. After the Internet Big Bang it was not long until the first commercial site went online. First came sex sites, then online casinos.

    Everybody who looks for Facebook to earn a quick buck, should remember that the whole internet is only a bubble.

    A single EMP accident or worse, and the Internet, no longer exists. For years, perhaps for decades.

    Anyway, it's a miracle that so far nothing has happened.

    Then all the people who chained themselves to the Internet, will be helpless.

    People who have real books can still read and teach.

    Facebook is a ruthless business. One example is the Facebook app. A sniffer tool. Privacy? Cookies contaminate the PC as it also makes Amazon. Hypnotically on the journey in the internet you will be bombarded with advertisements based on personal information.

    At least then, when there is no more money through a global catastrophe but only objects of exchange, then...

    The Egyptians have left the pyramids. They can see, feel, and enter.

    And we?

    The whole digital books, movies, data, and stories will disappear without a trace. The legacy of our existence will be nothing.

    NOTHING!

    You can call all far-fetched. Philosophically, there is no money. Only a soap bubble. The real existing money is only a fraction of what is in the balance sheets around the world.



    And...

    Against such types i have no respect: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-m...onnectu-2010-3

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    You are right you can't compare Facebook peoples for example with real peoples and i know that, didn't even say the opposite.

    Yeah there is no money on the internet, the money is in peoples pocket but you have to get it out somehow. Let's take offline marketing. Let's see that you spreed flyers in your city you can reach some people cool. As i can see you are in Germany, big country with lots of millionaires and stuff, and lots of money in the city, but for example I'm in Romania in a small village, i can spread flyers, but peoples will use it only to make fire and nothing else

    So for me to get in contact with peoples with money in the pocket i need a way for it, and the best is the internet. Staying with Facebook, i can easily reach thousand of US or even German peoples to offer my "product" to them or even to keep a friendship with them. I don't want to talk about philosophy that isn't my job. I'm here to talk about proven FACTS that everyone can use to get a better living while making some more money or even just getting some EXTRA to they actual earning.

    P.S. this will be long, you are right to, but i don't think that is our duty to talk about things like crash of the internet I don't want to scare peoples or make them feel better or worst since they use the internet for money making or anything. I'm here to help them if they accept my help.

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    I'm here to talk about proven FACTS that everyone can use to get a better living while making some more money


    If you want to feel rich, just count the things you have that money canít buy.
    (Unkown Source)

    Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realize we cannot eat money.
    (Cree Indian)



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    Ok, this is really to much for me, NO OFFENSE but this isn't a life coaching forum and this isn't why i'm here. Still looking for ideas and replies on my thread starter post. Thank you!

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    Hello dassad,

    resonances can be colorful.
    And do not always reflect the personal opinion.
    Or the own expectations.
    That's a good thing.
    For me too.
    Everybody can show respect to the other person.
    No matter what the topic.

    You are selling something:

    So here are few questions, let's see if there is interest for it, and if is than please allow me to share with you some unique and powerful software and script made ​​by me.* - Do you use Facebook in your gambling business?* - Do you have a fan page for your website?* - Do you like free viral targeted traffic?* - Are you interested in free Facebook applications that you can set up for yourself and get a huge viral FREE promotion for your website or offer?* and the most important:- Do you have an idea for a Facebook application that is not made ​​yet but you would like to have it and use it?
    That's perfect. And I mean that seriously. But believe me: My personal criticism of Facebook and the greed for money does not interfere with your sales for sure. If this is your concern: it is unfounded.

    If anybody want such a software, he buys. No matter what I write. And this is great for both sides.

    For all i want everyone will be rich, but it would be nice if everybody do not forget that money is not everything. I would just remind that money can not improve the smell of a forest.

    If all in life consists only of earning money, then something is going wrong. This applies to a shoe salesman as well as a casino webmaster.

    I whish you a good night and many sales of your software.

    Leopold

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    Hello,

    NO i'm not selling, not here i wasn't to SHARE FOR FREE something for what is a need here. And as i said no offense, i understand and accept your point of view about Facebook and even the whole life and stuff like that, but I'M NOT HERE FOR THAT that's all.

    That's why this thread is here, to ASK IF IS A NEED for it, and not to force on the users what i want to SELL. No sell, no income for me independent of my money greed or independent of the smell of the forest nor even shoe salesman and nor even smell of shoes

    If is a need, i figure something out, or tell me what you need and i share it, it just sucks that i have to write these lines again and again to SHARE SOMETHING valuable for free.

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    Hello,

    NO i'm not selling, not here i wasn't to SHARE FOR FREE something for what is a need here.
    sorry, then i misunderstood your words:

    Please answer the questions above or at least some of them, or just say that "I WANT SOMETHING FOR FREE"
    The word "or" has irritated me.
    I would have expected "and".
    But maybe i'm too stupid and it's already dark outside.

    You have to apologize for my assumption you want to sell ...
    Because i saw this topic before: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/buy-whole...tml#post650935

    If your software is truly free without loopholes and conditions, then many webmasters will rejoice. This topic has now attracted safe enough attention. That will help you.

    Maybe you should let the day end with deep gaiety.

    Leopold

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    Hello,

    yeah maybe my wording isn't the correct one, sorry about that. English isn't my native language, probably not even yours but maybe you are better in it that is.

    That thread is almost 2 years old, so really no need EVEN TO CHECK IT. Still you refer to a thread that you found probably on my profile statistics, but you don't see the one that screams ons you from my signature (https://www.gpwa.org/forum/ultimate-...er-190273.html) that is also an old thread, and you can see that that thread had some success to. I even created a free software to help the users on GPWA, offered them FREE license for limited time, and GUESS WHAT all those users are STILL ON FREE LICENSE< never charged them and never asked them to pay or donate or name it how you want.

    If i say FREE than there is no hidden small caps or hidden fees or anything like that, FREE means FREE for me. Also maybe there is some attention, but who would like to read two peoples talking about the "smell of the forest" and stuff like that in a SOCIAL MEDIA topic. And as the replies reflect it on this thread, all visitors go since they see only two peoples talking about something "irrelevant".

    However, POINTLESS DISCUSSION, this isn't why i started this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dassad View Post
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    - Do you use Facebook in your gambling business?
    - Do you have a fan page for your website?
    - Do you like free Viral targeted traffic?
    - Are you interested in free Facebook applications that you can set up for yourself and get a huge FREE viral promotion for your website or offer?
    I don't use FB, but i have plans to use it.
    Some people share my site on FB and i have a little amount of traffic from it.

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    Hello,

    thanks for adding your reply. Than you can see that you can get some real targeted traffic to your site. Still if is shared by someone else means that you deliver quality content, and that is what maters.

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    Wow this thread has gone in some strange directions!

    I'm not looking for any software, free or otherwise, but I will happily answer your questions:

    - Do you use Facebook in your gambling business?
    Yes we have a facebook page where we post our news articles and other bits and bobs.
    - Do you have a fan page for your website?
    Yes
    - Do you like free Viral targeted traffic?
    Erm... Always cautious of free.
    - Are you interested in free Facebook applications that you can set up for yourself and get a huge FREE viral promotion for your website or offer?
    Honestly... Not right now.

    and the most important:

    - Do you have an idea for a Facebook application that isn't made yet but you would like to have it and use it?
    No... Sorry.

    For me it's a lack of knowledge which prompts my cautiousness.

    If you come up with a good product it will sell itself.

    Best of luck with it.

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    Hello lowrisk,

    first of all thank you for your reply, really detailed. Well "unfortunately" we see paid stuff day by day and we get used to it. Unfortunately in quotation marks since this is where we can sell to, and gets our job easier since peoples get used to buy thing even if they could get the same stuff for free.

    Still i don't think that anyone should be aware of free stuff, only in one point. Many times we see "free" offers that have various loopholes and hidden fees and stuff like that. Still if i say FREE than i think on FREE and not anything twisted stuff to get your money.

    Still i say again, I DON'T WANT TO SELL HERE, i have places for that, GPWA isn't that place. The point of this thread is to see for what is a need in the gambling business and create something useful for free for many webmasters. I could create something and share it, maybe 10 peoples use it, that's cool to, but if i ask "Guys and Girls what you need?" Than maybe i can create something that is useful for 50 or even more peoples.

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    I agree 100% it's definitely a good idea to ask here. That's why I answered, to help with your research. I was just honest and nothing else I can be. Hope you get a few more replies that will help you out.

    As I mentioned, our facebook use is very primitive, so hence I couldn't really suggest anything. Currently we are trying different things to naturally build a bigger fb audience.

    You are right, social is definitely the future. I think in time social will have a bigger standing on google rankings. If we look at what the big companies are doing e.g. every advert you see a facebook logo. They are doing this for a reason!

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    Hello lowrisk,
    thank you again for your reply.

    I could share only some ebook with some quick tips or even here directly if you want to built a genuine fanpage on the "natural" way. For example here is a quick tip for you:

    Here are few quick tips to write catchy titles and image descriptions:

    1.) Peoples like toplists and this is proved. Use top list posts like:
    - 10 ways to browse the best casino bonus
    - 7 ways to get awesome bonuses
    - 5 biggest no deposit bonuses

    2. Always ask personalized questions on the end of your post or description, like:
    - Do you signup to a casino if you see that they have a no deposit bonus?
    - You sign up to many casinos or only one and good?
    - $5 no deposit bonus OR $100 double up bonus? Which one would you take

    If you think that i'm kidding just try it. Do one post with a TOP LIST technique and do a post with a question on the end than do a post as you usually do.

    Post all three and check the number of likes, shares and comments after 24-48 hours on the three posts.

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    I would like to here what you can do.

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